Hello.
After we finally agreed on an open kitchen, the living room layout has been causing quite a headache for my wife and me for some time.
Our ground floor layout:
The kitchen area is on the right (east), the dining table is centered in the bay window, and the living room is planned on the left (west). The plan shows the approximate kitchen layout as well as a fireplace with a wood-burning stove.
In our sketches below, I marked the sofa in green and the TV in blue.
My initial idea was to place the sofa facing southeast, with the TV and cabinets along the north wall of the living room:
I like how this keeps the room open and gives our two young children space to play. I would have placed cabinets on either side of the TV.
Unfortunately, my wife doesn’t like this arrangement at all. She prefers to look out the window to the south, and her suggestion looks like this:
She wants to build a half-height drywall partition behind the TV. For me, this is a bit unfortunate because it divides the room and, in my opinion, makes it harder to access. Also, I wonder about the cable management for the TV (I’m doubtful about drilling a hole in the floor if the drywall partition is removed later). Cabinets would still be along the north wall here.
Another idea is similar to the second but with the TV along the west wall. This would at least simplify cable management, though I still find the room less open and inviting:
It would be great if you had any suggestions on how to improve this. Currently, this is one of the biggest uncertainties in our project.
After we finally agreed on an open kitchen, the living room layout has been causing quite a headache for my wife and me for some time.
Our ground floor layout:
The kitchen area is on the right (east), the dining table is centered in the bay window, and the living room is planned on the left (west). The plan shows the approximate kitchen layout as well as a fireplace with a wood-burning stove.
In our sketches below, I marked the sofa in green and the TV in blue.
My initial idea was to place the sofa facing southeast, with the TV and cabinets along the north wall of the living room:
I like how this keeps the room open and gives our two young children space to play. I would have placed cabinets on either side of the TV.
Unfortunately, my wife doesn’t like this arrangement at all. She prefers to look out the window to the south, and her suggestion looks like this:
She wants to build a half-height drywall partition behind the TV. For me, this is a bit unfortunate because it divides the room and, in my opinion, makes it harder to access. Also, I wonder about the cable management for the TV (I’m doubtful about drilling a hole in the floor if the drywall partition is removed later). Cabinets would still be along the north wall here.
Another idea is similar to the second but with the TV along the west wall. This would at least simplify cable management, though I still find the room less open and inviting:
It would be great if you had any suggestions on how to improve this. Currently, this is one of the biggest uncertainties in our project.
P
Peanuts7417 Aug 2016 12:30bluminger schrieb:
Hello.
Thank you for your contributions; they have helped us, and we have now found a solution.
We do not want to give up the windows on the south side, and my wife insists on having them floor-to-ceiling — so the sofa, as in some suggestions, has now moved to the northwest corner. Moving the fireplace into the hallway is not so easy since there is another floor above it...
Here is our current solution:
The living room will be about 1 square meter (10.8 square feet) smaller, and the stove will only be visible from the dining area and kitchen. On the west side, there will be a window starting at the ridge line with a sill height of about 1.5 meters (5 feet).
Here is the upper floor regarding the fireplace:
I think the distance between the couch and the TV is too small; it’s about 350 centimeters (11.5 feet), right?
P
Peanuts7417 Aug 2016 13:03RobsonMKK schrieb:
What’s too small for one person is too big for another.
You can easily mount a 60-inch TV on a 3.5 m (11.5 ft) wall. If we’re talking about 4k resolution, even larger is definitely possible.Um, I’m not just talking about the TV size!
Our sofa (with adjustable seat depth) is about 130 cm (51 inches) deep, plus 40 cm (16 inches) of space, plus 60 cm (24 inches) for the coffee table, plus 100 cm (39 inches) of walkway, plus 60 cm (24 inches) for the TV stand or cabinet—that adds up to 390 cm (13 ft).
Around 400 cm (13 ft) is also the typical dimension for most standard or model homes, and not without reason.
In my previous apartment, it was about 300 cm (10 ft), and even without the deep sofa, it felt extremely tight; adding just 50 cm (20 inches) wouldn’t have made much difference.
But maybe the wall could be moved a bit further to the right?
J
j.bautsch17 Aug 2016 13:06We also have a living/dining room that is only 3.5m (11.5 feet) wide and 5.5m (18 feet) long. There is a 2.7m by 2.7m (9 feet by 9 feet) sofa in it, and we have a 42-inch TV. It could even be a bit bigger and it would still work. Although 4 meters (13 feet) would be nice, it is not necessary. Next to the TV, there is even a floor-to-ceiling paludarium, so there is 70cm (28 inches) of space in front of the sofa to work on the paludarium, and that is still manageable.
@Peanuts74 we have exactly 3.5 meters (11.5 feet) from the wall to the back of the sofa, and that is sufficient.
Well, your sofa is quite deep. Ours is 95 cm (37 inches). The TV stand is also very deep at 60 cm (24 inches); ours is 39 cm (15 inches) deep, which is enough since it’s not a CRT TV.
And as long as you don’t play musical chairs, that should be enough.
Well, your sofa is quite deep. Ours is 95 cm (37 inches). The TV stand is also very deep at 60 cm (24 inches); ours is 39 cm (15 inches) deep, which is enough since it’s not a CRT TV.
And as long as you don’t play musical chairs, that should be enough.
P
Peanuts7417 Aug 2016 14:09RobsonMKK schrieb:
@Peanuts74 we have exactly 3.5 meters (11.5 feet) from the wall to the back of the sofa, and that is sufficient.
Okay, your sofa is quite deep. Ours is 95 cm (37 inches) deep. The TV stand is also very deep at 60 cm (24 inches), while ours is 39 cm (15 inches) deep (which is enough anyway since there’s no tube TV on it).
And as long as you don’t play musical chairs, that should be enough. “Sufficient” is the right word; if we were grading, that would be a 4 (on a scale where 1 is best).
If I’m building myself, I wouldn’t size a main room just barely adequate.
Our bedroom is also “only” about 330 cm (11 feet) deep. Because of the large headboard, there is less than a meter (about 3 feet) left as a walkway on the opposite side.
That’s definitely not generous either, but since you don’t walk through the bedroom constantly, that’s enough for me in this case.
But everyone has their own priorities.
Our seating area totals about 18 m² (194 square feet), so not very large, but we planned for more space in the dining area instead.
When you have a lot of guests or celebrate a birthday, you’re not sitting with 15 people on the couch anyway, but rather at the dining table. That table can be extended to almost 4 meters (13 feet), and there is still enough room all around; that was more important to us.
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