ᐅ Lighting Design for Recessed Ceiling Spots on Ground and Upper Floors

Created on: 24 Mar 2020 12:27
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mambo1988
Hello everyone,

We are currently facing a challenging situation as we need to roughly position the recessed lights for our future house.
Attached are 4 images where we have tried to place the lights as accurately as possible, once with furniture layout and once with measurements.

We would appreciate some feedback so we can finalize this topic.

Rooms with recessed lights are:
Ground floor:
- Living room: These lights are mainly for illumination when cleaning. For dining, there is a regular ceiling light and some corner lights for ambiance. Possibly dimmable for events.
- Kitchen: These are intended to illuminate the work surfaces. The range hood above the kitchen island will have a light as well. On the side wall, there are tall cabinets with refrigerator, oven, etc. Possibly dimmable for events.
- Hallway: These lights are solely for illuminating the hallway. We want to manage without any additional light sources here.

Upper floor:
- Staircase: For basic lighting of the stairs, with a motion sensor. Possibly dimmable at night.
- Hallway: These lights are solely for illuminating the hallway. We want to manage without any additional light sources here.
- Bathroom: These lights provide full lighting of the bathroom. Possibly dimmable for a relaxing bath.

We look forward to your suggestions and advice.
Thank you very much!

Grundriss eines offenen Wohn-, Küchen- und Arbeitsbereichs mit WC und HWR.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit zwei Kinderzimmern, Schlafzimmer, Bad, Diele und Abstellraum.


Grundriss eines Wohnraums mit Wohnzimmer, offener Küche, Esstisch, Büro, Diele, Bad.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit zwei Kinderzimmern, Schlafzimmer, Bad, Badezimmer, Wäscheraum und Flur
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annab377
8 Apr 2020 08:51
@mambo1988 do you already know which light source you want to use?
As many users have already mentioned here, a large part of the successful lighting effect depends on the light source (lumens, kelvin, beam angle, etc.).
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annab377
10 Apr 2020 09:46
A question for everyone:
Would you choose 3000 or 4000 Kelvin LEDs for the bathroom?
We have agreed on relatively bright lighting (lumens) with a 36° beam angle, which can be dimmed if necessary (in case it’s too bright).

I’ve heard that for tasks like applying makeup, 4000 Kelvin is preferred because it is more neutral compared to 3000 Kelvin, which tends to be more yellowish.
Still, I imagine a warm yellowish bathroom to be cozier than a more neutral white one at 4000 Kelvin.

What did you choose, and would you do it the same way again?

Do you also know how many lux the lighting in your bathroom provides at floor level?

One thing is clear: the mirror cabinet should have 4000 Kelvin lighting from the front.

Thanks to everyone, and happy Easter in advance.


@mambo1988 see question #25
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hampshire
10 Apr 2020 10:40
The lighting in our bathroom works very well and is as follows:
Ceiling lighting: 4x 3000K, 120 degrees, 375lm through a diffuser covering about 12m² (130 ft²)
Alape mirror, round with continuous indirect lighting, 4200K 15W (no lumen rating)
2 amber-colored LEDs, about 30 lumens each, positioned on the right and left beside the toilet about 20cm (8 inches) above floor level as nightlights for orientation without glare
Makeup mirror with built-in light, selectable between 3000K or 4000K
Floor-to-ceiling window 210 x 60cm (83 x 24 inches) facing north
Overhead-height window 30 x 70cm (12 x 28 inches) facing west
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mambo1988
10 Apr 2020 11:59
Hello everyone,
we are currently trying to recreate everything in DIALux. This will take a bit longer, so here is just a brief update:
- In the living room, we will probably place only 6 recessed spotlights in a rectangular layout. The hallway and kitchen will remain as they are.
- Staircase lighting on the side
- Upstairs is next…

Once I make more progress with the software, I will share some images. We still need to decide exactly which light fixtures to use.

@hampshire Do you have an example of your ceiling lighting in the bathroom? If possible, please share the model and a photo.
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mambo1988
20 Apr 2020 18:39
Hello everyone,

I have finally managed to recreate our future house in DIALux at a 1:1 scale.
Thank you again for all the suggestions and advice. We have tried to take many things into account.

Attached you will find the current plan. Spotlights are marked in red, and ceiling outlets are marked in orange.
Are there any further tips or suggestions?

3D bathroom with sink, bathtub, and door, floor plan view


Top view: open living area with kitchen, dining table, staircase.


Top view of a U-shaped staircase: blue steps, white landing and walls.


Floor plan: open living/dining/kitchen area, stairs, office; red and orange markers.


Floor plan of a residential house: hallway, bathroom, bedroom, storage, two children's rooms, staircase.
AMNE3IA20 Apr 2020 19:16
Hello Mambo,
I have a few comments:

Ground Floor
Living Room: The pendant light and the lamp behind the sofa look nice.
Dining Room: The pendant light above the dining table is also good.
Living and Dining Room Spotlights: When will the spotlights be used?
Kitchen: Good.
Hallway: Good.
Stairs: Good.
Office: The lamp works well as general lighting.
I would definitely consider task lighting above the desk.
For example, diffuse, glare-free lighting on the left and right side of the desk chair, or at least a desk lamp.
Utility Room: Good.
Guest WC: Maybe add mirror lighting.

Upper Floor
Children’s Rooms 1 and 2: The general lighting is okay.
Additionally, extra lighting above the desks again.
It’s not very comfortable to work with the light source behind your back.
Hallway: Good.
Storage Room: Are tall cabinets planned there?
Bedroom: General lighting is fine.
Don’t you want lamps on the left and right sides of the bed?
Either pendant lights above the bedside tables or wall lamps.
Bathroom: I still believe that in the toilet area a stylish wall lamp with pleasant light would be better than a spotlight.
Shower is fine.
By the mirror above the washbasin, definitely add frontal lighting.
The spotlights would be directly above the head. This is not very flattering and creates ugly shadows under the eyes, nose, and chin.

Best regards, AMNE3IA