Hello everyone,
Our single-family house construction will start soon. It has now become clear that the exact positions of the LED downlights need to be specified at short notice, as their housings will be cast directly into the ceiling. Since this is quite costly, I don’t want to install more downlights than necessary. However, having too few would of course be even worse…
On the one hand, I have already read through several forum posts on the topic. On the other hand, I have determined the light cones for downlights with 90° and 120° beam angles and found that these would overlap nicely on the floor.
Nevertheless, I’m still unsure whether my “lighting plan” includes enough LED downlights and whether they are arranged sensibly.
Since many helpful suggestions have already been made in other threads, I would appreciate any good tips you might have for me as well 🙂
Ceiling height: 2.47 m (8 ft 1 in)
Downlights: e.g., the Luxvenum downlights recommended here with 90° and 120° beam angles
Not shown on the attached sketches: under the upper kitchen cabinets, there will be LED lighting for the countertop. In the gallery/void area, one spotlight each will be installed on the left and right sides to illuminate upwards for indirect lighting.
Many thanks and best regards,
Jörg
Our single-family house construction will start soon. It has now become clear that the exact positions of the LED downlights need to be specified at short notice, as their housings will be cast directly into the ceiling. Since this is quite costly, I don’t want to install more downlights than necessary. However, having too few would of course be even worse…
On the one hand, I have already read through several forum posts on the topic. On the other hand, I have determined the light cones for downlights with 90° and 120° beam angles and found that these would overlap nicely on the floor.
Nevertheless, I’m still unsure whether my “lighting plan” includes enough LED downlights and whether they are arranged sensibly.
Since many helpful suggestions have already been made in other threads, I would appreciate any good tips you might have for me as well 🙂
Ceiling height: 2.47 m (8 ft 1 in)
Downlights: e.g., the Luxvenum downlights recommended here with 90° and 120° beam angles
Not shown on the attached sketches: under the upper kitchen cabinets, there will be LED lighting for the countertop. In the gallery/void area, one spotlight each will be installed on the left and right sides to illuminate upwards for indirect lighting.
Many thanks and best regards,
Jörg
JörgWillbauen schrieb:
On the other hand, I calculated the light cones for spots with 90° and 120° and found that they would overlap well on the floor.Overlapping on the floor is of little use for tables, where the circles are smaller, such as in the kitchen, dining table, counter, and bathroom. Try to consider LED panels—they offer more options for lighting moods, indirect lighting, and less glare.
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JörgWillbauen30 Mar 2021 21:13Hello,
thank you very much in advance for your comments and suggestions!
In the gallery area, we are indeed planning to install a nice, large pendant lamp.
We don’t really like the design of the LED panels we usually see on the ceiling. Not the light itself, but how they look when mounted on the ceiling.
So our idea would be to install (well-positioned) dimmable spotlights on the ceiling as functional lighting. However, if I leave out some spotlights as suggested (in the living area or in the extension of the hallway), wouldn’t it be too dark to reach the recommended 100-150 lumens/m² (9.3-14 lumens/sq ft) for the living area or am I mistaken?
We really like your idea of creating atmosphere with wall lamps and LED strips. For example, we can imagine placing a wall lamp between the dining table and the sofa. Also, perhaps a kind of shelf with niche lighting between the two sliding doors.
Where would LED strips fit well?
Above the sofa in the gallery area, the walls on the left and right extend all the way up and they would be illuminated.
thank you very much in advance for your comments and suggestions!
In the gallery area, we are indeed planning to install a nice, large pendant lamp.
We don’t really like the design of the LED panels we usually see on the ceiling. Not the light itself, but how they look when mounted on the ceiling.
So our idea would be to install (well-positioned) dimmable spotlights on the ceiling as functional lighting. However, if I leave out some spotlights as suggested (in the living area or in the extension of the hallway), wouldn’t it be too dark to reach the recommended 100-150 lumens/m² (9.3-14 lumens/sq ft) for the living area or am I mistaken?
We really like your idea of creating atmosphere with wall lamps and LED strips. For example, we can imagine placing a wall lamp between the dining table and the sofa. Also, perhaps a kind of shelf with niche lighting between the two sliding doors.
Where would LED strips fit well?
face26 schrieb:
Uplights rely on illuminating a wall and reflecting the light indirectly back. I find it hard to imagine that. What does the “gallery” on the floor above look like? If there is no masonry balustrade or wall, the uplights would only illuminate the ceiling reveal. Or am I misunderstanding something?
Above the sofa in the gallery area, the walls on the left and right extend all the way up and they would be illuminated.
JörgWillbauen schrieb:
If I omit some spotlights as suggested (in the living area or in the extension of the hallway), wouldn’t it then be too dark to reach the recommended 100-150 lumens/m² for the living area, or am I mistaken?I can only recommend Dialux. It’s free, and with 1-2 YouTube videos you can nicely calculate/simulate light output, lumens, etc. That’s how I simulated the rooms where spotlights are or will be installed. For example, in the bathroom, this led me to a completely different arrangement and number of lights than initially planned. It also allows you to simulate which beam angle works best. At first, I used the Luxvenum with 120° (which I also tested here), but I switched to the 60° and am quite satisfied with that.
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hampshire31 Mar 2021 09:19Consider what kind of lighting you want to create a cozy and comfortable atmosphere and what you need for functional purposes. Then think about the areas where you spend time in the house and your expectations for them. I would be surprised if many recessed ceiling lights remain unused.
The recessed ceiling lights in our sons’ apartments are rarely used. They provide functional brightness but do not create a homely feel. Even young adult males who spend a lot of time in front of screens and have partially virtual lifestyles notice this.
The recessed ceiling lights in our sons’ apartments are rarely used. They provide functional brightness but do not create a homely feel. Even young adult males who spend a lot of time in front of screens and have partially virtual lifestyles notice this.
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