ᐅ LED lights / recessed spotlights in the hallway and both bathrooms
Created on: 19 Feb 2014 10:48
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HilfeHilfe19 Feb 2014 10:48Hello,
we want to install recessed spotlights in the hallway as well as in the guest bathroom and main bathroom. The builder will install a dropped ceiling in the hallway, and a long soffit will be installed in the bathrooms.
The electrician charges 50 € per spotlight but said we can provide the materials ourselves. (everything is handled through the builder)
Our question is: what do you recommend for the spotlights, and can we save money by supplying the materials ourselves?
The guest bathroom and hallway have no windows. The main bathroom has a large window.
Thank you
we want to install recessed spotlights in the hallway as well as in the guest bathroom and main bathroom. The builder will install a dropped ceiling in the hallway, and a long soffit will be installed in the bathrooms.
The electrician charges 50 € per spotlight but said we can provide the materials ourselves. (everything is handled through the builder)
Our question is: what do you recommend for the spotlights, and can we save money by supplying the materials ourselves?
The guest bathroom and hallway have no windows. The main bathroom has a large window.
Thank you
Hi!
We have LED downlights throughout the entire upper floor.
The spots themselves cost around €7 each (ordered online, with many options available).
You’ll probably need transformers (which can be placed inside the suspended ceiling) to convert 230 V to 12 V. For LED bulbs, you can expect about €14 per transformer, with one transformer supporting 5 spots.
The bulb prices heavily depend on the technology you choose. We opted for LED bulbs because they last longer and use much less electricity (7 W vs. 60 W each). Our approach was quality over price. Of course, there are cheaper LEDs available, but decent ones cost us about €21 each.
With LEDs, it’s important to consider color temperature, beam angle, and lumen output of the spots.
I think we have a 36° beam angle, 6.5 W, warm white 2700 K, and 380 lumens.
In the bathroom (13 m² (140 sq ft)), we have 5 spots of this type. If I were to do it again, I might go for 6 spots.
You can basically install this yourself—I managed it without any accidents despite having very limited skills.
The final cost is about €32 per spot, but that’s for LED. With halogen, you’d pay around €15 per spot (cheaper bulbs but more expensive transformers).
Hope this helps.
Andi
We have LED downlights throughout the entire upper floor.
The spots themselves cost around €7 each (ordered online, with many options available).
You’ll probably need transformers (which can be placed inside the suspended ceiling) to convert 230 V to 12 V. For LED bulbs, you can expect about €14 per transformer, with one transformer supporting 5 spots.
The bulb prices heavily depend on the technology you choose. We opted for LED bulbs because they last longer and use much less electricity (7 W vs. 60 W each). Our approach was quality over price. Of course, there are cheaper LEDs available, but decent ones cost us about €21 each.
With LEDs, it’s important to consider color temperature, beam angle, and lumen output of the spots.
I think we have a 36° beam angle, 6.5 W, warm white 2700 K, and 380 lumens.
In the bathroom (13 m² (140 sq ft)), we have 5 spots of this type. If I were to do it again, I might go for 6 spots.
You can basically install this yourself—I managed it without any accidents despite having very limited skills.
The final cost is about €32 per spot, but that’s for LED. With halogen, you’d pay around €15 per spot (cheaper bulbs but more expensive transformers).
Hope this helps.
Andi
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@Brisch: What determines the angle, or how did you choose it? Would you also install spotlights in the children's rooms and dressing area? Is the lighting sufficient, and can it illuminate the entire room well? Halogen lights are always quite focused. What are the actual advantages compared to a regular ceiling light in the middle of the room (for example, in a child's room)?
@Brisch: What determines the angle, or how did you choose it? Would you also install spotlights in the children's rooms and dressing area? Is the lighting sufficient, and can it illuminate the entire room well? Halogen lights are always quite focused. What are the actual advantages compared to a regular ceiling light in the middle of the room (for example, in a child's room)?
Kisska86 schrieb:
I’ll join in here.
@Brisch: What does the angle depend on, or how did you choose it? Would you install spotlights in the kids’ rooms and dressing area as well? Is the lighting sufficient to illuminate the entire room well? Halogen lights usually focus light quite narrowly. What are the advantages compared to a regular ceiling light in the middle of the room (for example, in the kids’ rooms)?
The angle depends on the LED light source. The wider, the better. We also have spotlights in the bedrooms and kids’ rooms. Especially with sloped ceilings, spotlights work great because, in the already limited free space, you don’t have a hanging lamp that you might bump your head on. The lighting is sufficient if there are enough spotlights or lumens (there’s a formula for how many lumens per square meter are recommended for living spaces—I don’t remember it offhand, but it’s mentioned elsewhere in the forum. Just try searching for it). The advantage: no head bumps. Otherwise, it’s a matter of personal preference.
Hello,
I would recommend installing GU10 spotlights:
a) LEDs are easier to dim because no additional electronics (transformer) are needed
b) the transformer is eliminated
c) more cost-effective
Regarding the angle:
Take a sheet of paper and draw the height of your room to scale. From the ceiling, draw down the angle of your desired light source all the way to the floor.
This will show you how far apart your spotlights need to be to fully illuminate the floor.
This method worked very well for me.
There are excellent 7W (23.7W equivalent) 2700K bulbs available from O***am that should suit your needs.
For testing, you can do the following:
Once you know the spacing of your spotlights, take a long board and mount the spotlights accordingly. Hold the board at the desired height, turn off the room lights, turn on the spotlights, and observe the result.
On A****on, you can find very nice recessed rings at a great price—just take a look.
Best regards,
EF
I would recommend installing GU10 spotlights:
a) LEDs are easier to dim because no additional electronics (transformer) are needed
b) the transformer is eliminated
c) more cost-effective
Regarding the angle:
Take a sheet of paper and draw the height of your room to scale. From the ceiling, draw down the angle of your desired light source all the way to the floor.
This will show you how far apart your spotlights need to be to fully illuminate the floor.
This method worked very well for me.
There are excellent 7W (23.7W equivalent) 2700K bulbs available from O***am that should suit your needs.
For testing, you can do the following:
Once you know the spacing of your spotlights, take a long board and mount the spotlights accordingly. Hold the board at the desired height, turn off the room lights, turn on the spotlights, and observe the result.
On A****on, you can find very nice recessed rings at a great price—just take a look.
Best regards,
EF
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