Good morning community,
We are planning to install stair lighting as shown in the attached image, marked in yellow, using an LED strip that follows the incline of the stairs. Based on everything I have read here so far, I thought the idea of installing a flush-mounted channel directly onto the stone, which the plasterer would then level flush during plastering, would not be too difficult to achieve.
However, we had a construction meeting today with our electrician and site manager, and both expressed serious concerns that this would be a huge effort or might even be technically infeasible. Their concern, as far as I understood, is that when plastering this high and long wall spanning two floors, there will inevitably be variations in plaster thickness due to the construction method, making it almost impossible to install the channel evenly and flush along the entire length. Additionally, the plasterer’s workload would be much greater, which means higher costs for us, so they advise against this option for that reason alone. Both recommend a surface-mounted solution, although they agree with us that the flush-mounted version would obviously look better.
They gave us very good advice today, and I think we have come up with a great electrical plan… I believe they were simply a bit unsure about the LED stair lighting strip.
Do you have suggestions on the best way to implement the LED strip? Should it definitely be flush-mounted, or would a surface-mounted solution be simpler? Or would it perhaps be easier from a craftsmanship perspective to use several vertical LED strips that follow the stair incline?
Additionally, I have a question about whether it’s possible to plan a Hue Lightstrip here, or if it would be better to use conventional LED strips.
Thanks in advance for your advice and help!!
We are planning to install stair lighting as shown in the attached image, marked in yellow, using an LED strip that follows the incline of the stairs. Based on everything I have read here so far, I thought the idea of installing a flush-mounted channel directly onto the stone, which the plasterer would then level flush during plastering, would not be too difficult to achieve.
However, we had a construction meeting today with our electrician and site manager, and both expressed serious concerns that this would be a huge effort or might even be technically infeasible. Their concern, as far as I understood, is that when plastering this high and long wall spanning two floors, there will inevitably be variations in plaster thickness due to the construction method, making it almost impossible to install the channel evenly and flush along the entire length. Additionally, the plasterer’s workload would be much greater, which means higher costs for us, so they advise against this option for that reason alone. Both recommend a surface-mounted solution, although they agree with us that the flush-mounted version would obviously look better.
They gave us very good advice today, and I think we have come up with a great electrical plan… I believe they were simply a bit unsure about the LED stair lighting strip.
Do you have suggestions on the best way to implement the LED strip? Should it definitely be flush-mounted, or would a surface-mounted solution be simpler? Or would it perhaps be easier from a craftsmanship perspective to use several vertical LED strips that follow the stair incline?
Additionally, I have a question about whether it’s possible to plan a Hue Lightstrip here, or if it would be better to use conventional LED strips.
Thanks in advance for your advice and help!!
hausnrplus2524 Jul 2021 15:49Alternative handrail: What type of LED strip and how to route the cables? 🙄
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Alternative handrail: What kind of LED strip and how is the cable routed? 🙄I can’t help with the LED strip itself, my electrician took care of that. You just need to consider the placement of the power supply. Be careful, depending on the strip and power, a small junction box power supply might not be enough.
For cable routing, with a wooden handrail, have a groove made to fit the LED strip. Then try searching on the big search engine for “handrail bracket LED.” My first result with a picture was a shop with stainless steel in the name. I have those. I drilled a hole from the groove (mine doesn’t go down the wall but into the handrail) downward. At that point, the handrail bracket includes cable routing. Of course, you have to plan this carefully because the power supply cable needs to come out of the wall exactly there.
hausnrplus2524 Jul 2021 23:09Hey,
thanks for the feedback. Yes, we have now decided on an LED strip with a transformer. An electrical outlet is now installed under the stairs, so the transformer location is defined.
We ordered the handrail last year with a groove when we bought the stairs, and the electrician installed a switch in the wall for both the stair ascent and descent.
We only now found time for detailed planning. The shell construction is technically complete. Before the screed goes in and we start the painting work, everything needs to be prepared.
Since we have two handrails (landing staircase), we have already found an extension and a splitter connection to route the cable from the transformer to the LED strip sufficiently and to use it for both handrails.
We are wondering how to best run the cable inside the wall so that
1. it can be replaced later without opening the entire wall again, and 2. how to lead the cable from the handrail into the wall without it being visible.
Are there handrail brackets available that allow the screw and cable to pass through? Otherwise, we will ask our stair builder about this after the weekend.
The ones we saw onsite were only sleeves for the fastening screw, and we don’t want the cable simply stuck visibly along the handrail and led into a visible, even if small, hole in the wall.
Andre77 kindly already answered me about how he handled this, but his LED strip ends in the wall with the connection under the stairs, so there’s no need to hide the connection.
So the part about “hiding the LED strip end up to the transformer” still needs a solution ...
thanks for the feedback. Yes, we have now decided on an LED strip with a transformer. An electrical outlet is now installed under the stairs, so the transformer location is defined.
We ordered the handrail last year with a groove when we bought the stairs, and the electrician installed a switch in the wall for both the stair ascent and descent.
We only now found time for detailed planning. The shell construction is technically complete. Before the screed goes in and we start the painting work, everything needs to be prepared.
Since we have two handrails (landing staircase), we have already found an extension and a splitter connection to route the cable from the transformer to the LED strip sufficiently and to use it for both handrails.
We are wondering how to best run the cable inside the wall so that
1. it can be replaced later without opening the entire wall again, and 2. how to lead the cable from the handrail into the wall without it being visible.
Are there handrail brackets available that allow the screw and cable to pass through? Otherwise, we will ask our stair builder about this after the weekend.
The ones we saw onsite were only sleeves for the fastening screw, and we don’t want the cable simply stuck visibly along the handrail and led into a visible, even if small, hole in the wall.
Andre77 kindly already answered me about how he handled this, but his LED strip ends in the wall with the connection under the stairs, so there’s no need to hide the connection.
So the part about “hiding the LED strip end up to the transformer” still needs a solution ...
I think it’s too late and I’ve had a bit too much beer to follow the problem properly :p
Did you search for “handrail bracket stainless metal”? That’s where the cable runs from the handrail into the wall. The bracket is a pipe or tube.
And why would you want to replace the cable? For what purpose?
Did you search for “handrail bracket stainless metal”? That’s where the cable runs from the handrail into the wall. The bracket is a pipe or tube.
And why would you want to replace the cable? For what purpose?
hausnrplus2525 Jul 2021 11:28Yes, I have. I will talk to the staircase company because we are getting a handrail with a different type of mounting. I am specifically looking for a mounting like that, including cable routing. However, the cable where the handrail is mounted must go INTO the wall and then come out again under the stairs where the transformer is located. Ideally, it should be possible to replace the cable without having to break open the wall. We are now considering installing a cable duct inside the wall, with its opening hidden by the mounting bracket.
The cable that comes with the LED strips is too short from the end to the plug.
The cable that comes with the LED strips is too short from the end to the plug.
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