ᐅ Floor plan question: Replacing a straight staircase with an L-shaped staircase

Created on: 29 Jun 2023 21:59
S
s_mhofma
Hello everyone,
At the moment, we have planned a straight staircase. The ceiling height is 2.65 meters (8 ft 8 in). Please also see the house sketch.
The hallway upstairs and downstairs is the same width. I am wondering if it would be possible to create an L-shaped staircase that would allow access to the bedroom through the walk-in closet, as marked in red. Without having to change the width of the hallway? The L-shaped staircase could, of course, be positioned further forward, and hopefully, when I reach the top, there would be enough space for the door to the walk-in closet/bedroom. Would this be possible?
Thanks in advance
Technische Zeichnung eines kleinen Holzhauses mit Dachstuhl, Maßlinien und Grundrissanzeige.

Grundrissplan: Elternzimmer, Bad/DU/WC, Arbeitsbereich, Treppe, Luke, Stellplatz.
S
s_mhofma
30 Jun 2023 20:41
kati1337 schrieb:

Is this baby already here, for whom the entire floor plan is supposed to be rearranged? Either way, I would carefully consider whether it’s worth completely changing the house layout just for a phase that only lasts a short time.
Babies are very individual, so who knows if the situation “we’re in the living room, the baby sleeps upstairs” will even apply to you? There are many babies who are very clingy. And then there are those like ours, who don’t care about much and just want to sleep peacefully. With both types, you don’t actually have to constantly run back and forth. If the baby is really still at an age where you need to constantly attend to them — mind you, mine is now 4 months old and this phase is already over — then you usually keep them with you all the time anyway, since doing otherwise hardly makes sense.
Long story short: predicting baby behavior and needs is almost impossible. The high maintenance phase lasts less long than you might think.

You are absolutely right. With my first child, I might be somewhat biased. But of course, every child is different, and none of it can be planned.
K
kbt09
30 Jun 2023 20:46
s_mhofma schrieb:

The question was only whether an L-shaped staircase is possible given the width of the hallway. For that, the complete floor plan is not necessary.

The answer has been available since at least Post 8 😉
Y
ypg
30 Jun 2023 20:54
Hmm..
1. If you want the child to have short distances, you could keep them in the guest room for the first period. Isn’t the child usually in the parents’ bedroom for at least the first six months anyway?
2. About the staircase/hallway:
Do you want to widen the hallway? I thought you meant faster access to the walk-in closet from the stairs?!
If you have the stairs turn at the top, the path to the child’s room would actually be longer, since you would basically go around the staircase.
And even as I write this, I don’t see any problems at all. After all, you don’t have a 300 sqm (3,230 sq ft) villa, but apparently a house of normal size, where you can more or less perceive everything from the lower left diagonal to the upper right diagonal. And if you still think you can’t, then just use a baby monitor. It won’t harm the child if the parent takes 32 seconds instead of 3.2 seconds to get to the crib.
By the way (I know you don’t want to hear this): don’t plan a bathroom above the living, dining, or kitchen area if you can use shorter routes and stack the bathrooms instead. You definitely don’t want water or wastewater damage in your open-plan living space.
kati133730 Jun 2023 21:09
s_mhofma schrieb:

You are absolutely right. I might be a little biased because of my first child. But of course, every child is different and none of it can be planned.
Well, if you already have one, at least you have a reference point for what to expect, but it doesn’t have to be the same. 😉
Our two, at least in the first few months of life—contrary to all predictions—have very similar behavior patterns. Let’s see how things develop from here.
S
s_mhofma
30 Jun 2023 21:33
kbt09 schrieb:

The answer has been available since at least post 8 😉
Well, not really.
It says that it will be tight and not look good. Does tight mean it’s possible, or not?
I was hoping there might be someone here who knows about stairs and can tell me if the stair’s going dimension and the hallway width make it technically feasible.
K
kbt09
30 Jun 2023 21:38
Your hallway is 213 cm (84 inches)... For L-shaped stairs, the landing side can be made only as wide as the stair width, but this requires careful planning. This still leaves only about 100-110 cm (39-43 inches) for the front door. And the dirt/mud area at the entrance is located right in front of the stairway.

The standard L-shaped staircase usually has 125 cm (49 inches) in the short leg of the L... which leaves you with less than 90 cm (35 inches) for the front door.

Also, the 213 cm (84 inches) you mentioned for the hallway width is the rough opening measurement. It will therefore be somewhat narrower once finished.

Since you haven’t provided the complete floor plan, it’s not possible to consider alternative options.

I am also concerned about the planned 2-3 steps overlapping the ceiling. The floor-to-ceiling height would need to be known for that.