Hello dear forum community,
we are almost finished with the planning of our project, but there is one issue that has concerned us from the start and that we haven’t been able to solve given the current floor plan layout.
I’ll try to keep it brief: We definitely want a built-in shower without a door in the ground floor bathroom (it doesn’t have to be fully walled up to the ceiling; it can also be half-open with, for example, glass extending up to the ceiling). Because of strict building regulations—or rather, regulations that are not favorable for our project—we get very little living space in the attic, so we had to give up on having the bedroom there. Therefore, the bedroom, dressing room, and master bathroom are all on the ground floor. Due to the somewhat limited square footage, we are unable to fit the shower in the bathroom the way we would like. Do you perhaps have any tips or ideas on how we could plan the shower a bit larger or longer within this floor plan so that we wouldn’t need a door for the shower? I was told that a doorless shower only makes sense from about 1.60m (5 ft 3 in) in length.
I’m deliberately not going into further detailed information about the project, the plot, etc., since this concerns only the bathroom. The bathroom is 12.66 m2 (136 sq ft), the dressing room is 9.09 m2 (98 sq ft), and the master bedroom is 15.31 m2 (165 sq ft).
For completeness, here are all three floors.
Thanks in advance for all helpful suggestions.
we are almost finished with the planning of our project, but there is one issue that has concerned us from the start and that we haven’t been able to solve given the current floor plan layout.
I’ll try to keep it brief: We definitely want a built-in shower without a door in the ground floor bathroom (it doesn’t have to be fully walled up to the ceiling; it can also be half-open with, for example, glass extending up to the ceiling). Because of strict building regulations—or rather, regulations that are not favorable for our project—we get very little living space in the attic, so we had to give up on having the bedroom there. Therefore, the bedroom, dressing room, and master bathroom are all on the ground floor. Due to the somewhat limited square footage, we are unable to fit the shower in the bathroom the way we would like. Do you perhaps have any tips or ideas on how we could plan the shower a bit larger or longer within this floor plan so that we wouldn’t need a door for the shower? I was told that a doorless shower only makes sense from about 1.60m (5 ft 3 in) in length.
I’m deliberately not going into further detailed information about the project, the plot, etc., since this concerns only the bathroom. The bathroom is 12.66 m2 (136 sq ft), the dressing room is 9.09 m2 (98 sq ft), and the master bedroom is 15.31 m2 (165 sq ft).
For completeness, here are all three floors.
Thanks in advance for all helpful suggestions.
@kaho674 :
Your behavior is very interesting.
You don’t need to justify your casual “oh, just something personal,” it doesn’t make it any more acceptable. It was simply rude again. When something stops being “personal” in your eyes is probably a very flexible concept, more influenced by whim and how much you like the other person.
Seriously: The tone in this forum is sometimes the worst I have ever read in any forum. Marked by jealousy, a desperate search for recognition, and dismissiveness toward those asking questions.
There haven’t really been any well-founded planning suggestions here (especially from you), yet some food for thought (in the form of criticism, not design proposals) has occurred. That allowed us to arrive at the perfect solution ourselves. Wait: Not the “textbook solution,” but the solution necessary for our dream, one that perfectly realizes our ideas — I’m proud of our own achievement, the changes have already been taken into account, and the project will start soon.
Just a few clarifications for your understanding:
If the house were 30-40m2 (320-430 sq ft) smaller, the attic floor would be almost unusable. I’ve already mentioned that the regulations don’t allow for a reasonable ceiling height in the attic. For this reason, there are quite a few tiny houses nearby — also on sloped land — which only have a basement and ground floor. And now, something actually personal: Please don’t deny that a basement in a house embedded in a slope is darker than the ground floor. On the right side of the house, supporting walls will raise the level to the terrace height to provide space for the swimming pool. Therefore, no windows can be placed there. On the left side, windows would be possible, but then the garage would be right in front. So only the front remains for windows. It’s absolute nonsense to claim here that the basement — apart from hobby or office use — could deliver anything remotely close to my idea of a bright, friendly living space. Although I can’t and don’t want to do without hobby or office space. Having the office in the attic or ground floor doesn’t make sense because I don’t want to lead my clients through my living area. It would have been helpful to accept these facts and propose sensible solutions rather than stubbornly sticking to an unfeasible idea in that rude and dismissive way.
And yes: The house is big. But as you already wrote: If finances are a minor concern, I’d rather increase the floor area than have to squeeze into 170m2 (1,830 sq ft).
Regarding the “prison bathroom/dressing room”: Both work in the family business. Fortunately, this situation doesn’t apply to us.
For the sake of the clothes — since there are open closets — I would always avoid a window in the dressing room. Correction: “dressing nook,” sorry. Let’s just hope you don’t have to entertain guests in your “little house” in the dressing room. Because then there wouldn’t be much left for living, would there?
So, that’s enough entertainment for now. Don’t take it the wrong way; a bit of sarcasm and joking is allowed. You get back what you put in, as the saying goes. So let’s let it go — in the end, everything will be fine.
Many thanks to everyone who made helpful suggestions at the beginning. We learned a lot, reconsidered many things, and took control back in our favor.
If it’s possible to unsubscribe here, this will be my last post.
Best regards
Your behavior is very interesting.
You don’t need to justify your casual “oh, just something personal,” it doesn’t make it any more acceptable. It was simply rude again. When something stops being “personal” in your eyes is probably a very flexible concept, more influenced by whim and how much you like the other person.
Seriously: The tone in this forum is sometimes the worst I have ever read in any forum. Marked by jealousy, a desperate search for recognition, and dismissiveness toward those asking questions.
There haven’t really been any well-founded planning suggestions here (especially from you), yet some food for thought (in the form of criticism, not design proposals) has occurred. That allowed us to arrive at the perfect solution ourselves. Wait: Not the “textbook solution,” but the solution necessary for our dream, one that perfectly realizes our ideas — I’m proud of our own achievement, the changes have already been taken into account, and the project will start soon.
Just a few clarifications for your understanding:
If the house were 30-40m2 (320-430 sq ft) smaller, the attic floor would be almost unusable. I’ve already mentioned that the regulations don’t allow for a reasonable ceiling height in the attic. For this reason, there are quite a few tiny houses nearby — also on sloped land — which only have a basement and ground floor. And now, something actually personal: Please don’t deny that a basement in a house embedded in a slope is darker than the ground floor. On the right side of the house, supporting walls will raise the level to the terrace height to provide space for the swimming pool. Therefore, no windows can be placed there. On the left side, windows would be possible, but then the garage would be right in front. So only the front remains for windows. It’s absolute nonsense to claim here that the basement — apart from hobby or office use — could deliver anything remotely close to my idea of a bright, friendly living space. Although I can’t and don’t want to do without hobby or office space. Having the office in the attic or ground floor doesn’t make sense because I don’t want to lead my clients through my living area. It would have been helpful to accept these facts and propose sensible solutions rather than stubbornly sticking to an unfeasible idea in that rude and dismissive way.
And yes: The house is big. But as you already wrote: If finances are a minor concern, I’d rather increase the floor area than have to squeeze into 170m2 (1,830 sq ft).
Regarding the “prison bathroom/dressing room”: Both work in the family business. Fortunately, this situation doesn’t apply to us.
For the sake of the clothes — since there are open closets — I would always avoid a window in the dressing room. Correction: “dressing nook,” sorry. Let’s just hope you don’t have to entertain guests in your “little house” in the dressing room. Because then there wouldn’t be much left for living, would there?
So, that’s enough entertainment for now. Don’t take it the wrong way; a bit of sarcasm and joking is allowed. You get back what you put in, as the saying goes. So let’s let it go — in the end, everything will be fine.
Many thanks to everyone who made helpful suggestions at the beginning. We learned a lot, reconsidered many things, and took control back in our favor.
If it’s possible to unsubscribe here, this will be my last post.
Best regards
464!RDO schrieb:
So! We’ve been busy and worked some magic. Looking forward to your opinions.
Otherwise:
@kaho674: Of course, it’s a personal matter. What else could it be? I don’t understand the purpose of the comment. Naturally, we have "personal" opinions, wishes, and requirements that we want to realize in "our" own house. And if, for me, a basement is not suitable for children's rooms, then that’s perfectly fine, isn’t it? I want an office and a hobby/workshop room in the basement, both with windows. So, there’s no room for children’s bedrooms or sleeping rooms in the basement. This is a personal preference regarding the use of the basement.
Currently, we have small children. I don’t want to go into detail here, but until they are out of the rough phase and can be left alone, I don’t want them in the basement either. I would always have to lock the doors, and I wouldn’t have any control over it. If one of the children cries, I would have to run from the upper floor to the basement or vice versa. That just isn’t a good solution. I’m glad the children have their own complete area now (an entire upper floor). I am also planning a small hidden space (the storage room behind the bathroom), which is relatively large. The children can choose a theme there, and it will be a sort of playroom with appropriate lighting and design—additional to the guest/playroom. I’m bringing up the old post again. Just in case nobody noticed that there is no longer an entrance.
Especially the floor plans are not copied when quoting, which is a pity. So please check post #37.
icandoit schrieb:
I’m bringing up the old post again. Just in case no one noticed that there is no longer an entrance.
Unfortunately, the floor plans don’t get copied when quoting, which is a shame. So please refer to post #37. What is the purpose of this post? Which entrance is being referred to, please?
464!RDO schrieb:
What is the purpose of this post? Which entrance are you referring to, please?Sorry, you’re right. I didn’t read the beginning. The entrance is in the basement.Similar topics