Hello dear forum community,
we are almost finished with the planning of our project, but there is one issue that has concerned us from the start and that we haven’t been able to solve given the current floor plan layout.
I’ll try to keep it brief: We definitely want a built-in shower without a door in the ground floor bathroom (it doesn’t have to be fully walled up to the ceiling; it can also be half-open with, for example, glass extending up to the ceiling). Because of strict building regulations—or rather, regulations that are not favorable for our project—we get very little living space in the attic, so we had to give up on having the bedroom there. Therefore, the bedroom, dressing room, and master bathroom are all on the ground floor. Due to the somewhat limited square footage, we are unable to fit the shower in the bathroom the way we would like. Do you perhaps have any tips or ideas on how we could plan the shower a bit larger or longer within this floor plan so that we wouldn’t need a door for the shower? I was told that a doorless shower only makes sense from about 1.60m (5 ft 3 in) in length.
I’m deliberately not going into further detailed information about the project, the plot, etc., since this concerns only the bathroom. The bathroom is 12.66 m2 (136 sq ft), the dressing room is 9.09 m2 (98 sq ft), and the master bedroom is 15.31 m2 (165 sq ft).
For completeness, here are all three floors.
Thanks in advance for all helpful suggestions.
we are almost finished with the planning of our project, but there is one issue that has concerned us from the start and that we haven’t been able to solve given the current floor plan layout.
I’ll try to keep it brief: We definitely want a built-in shower without a door in the ground floor bathroom (it doesn’t have to be fully walled up to the ceiling; it can also be half-open with, for example, glass extending up to the ceiling). Because of strict building regulations—or rather, regulations that are not favorable for our project—we get very little living space in the attic, so we had to give up on having the bedroom there. Therefore, the bedroom, dressing room, and master bathroom are all on the ground floor. Due to the somewhat limited square footage, we are unable to fit the shower in the bathroom the way we would like. Do you perhaps have any tips or ideas on how we could plan the shower a bit larger or longer within this floor plan so that we wouldn’t need a door for the shower? I was told that a doorless shower only makes sense from about 1.60m (5 ft 3 in) in length.
I’m deliberately not going into further detailed information about the project, the plot, etc., since this concerns only the bathroom. The bathroom is 12.66 m2 (136 sq ft), the dressing room is 9.09 m2 (98 sq ft), and the master bedroom is 15.31 m2 (165 sq ft).
For completeness, here are all three floors.
Thanks in advance for all helpful suggestions.
So! We have been busy and made a little magic. Looking forward to your opinions.
Otherwise:
@kaho674: Of course, it is a personal matter. What else should it be? I don’t understand the point of the comment. Of course, we have “personal” opinions, wishes, and requirements that we want to realize in “our” personal house. And if, for me, a basement is not suitable for children’s rooms, then that’s okay, isn’t it? I want to have an office and a hobby/workshop room in the basement. And both need windows. So there is no space for a children’s room or bedroom in the basement. This adds to the personal feeling about the use of the basement.
At the moment, we have small children. I don’t want to go into too much detail, but: Until they are out of the “rough” phase and can be left alone, I don’t want them in the basement. I would always have to lock the doors, wouldn’t have control over this, and if one of the children cries, I would have to run from the upper floor to the basement or vice versa. That’s just not a good solution. I’m happy now that the children have their own complete area (a whole upper floor). For example, I’m also planning a small hidden area (the chamber behind the bathroom), which is relatively large. The children can choose a theme there, which will turn it into a kind of playroom with appropriate lighting and design. In addition to the guest room / playroom.
Otherwise:
@kaho674: Of course, it is a personal matter. What else should it be? I don’t understand the point of the comment. Of course, we have “personal” opinions, wishes, and requirements that we want to realize in “our” personal house. And if, for me, a basement is not suitable for children’s rooms, then that’s okay, isn’t it? I want to have an office and a hobby/workshop room in the basement. And both need windows. So there is no space for a children’s room or bedroom in the basement. This adds to the personal feeling about the use of the basement.
At the moment, we have small children. I don’t want to go into too much detail, but: Until they are out of the “rough” phase and can be left alone, I don’t want them in the basement. I would always have to lock the doors, wouldn’t have control over this, and if one of the children cries, I would have to run from the upper floor to the basement or vice versa. That’s just not a good solution. I’m happy now that the children have their own complete area (a whole upper floor). For example, I’m also planning a small hidden area (the chamber behind the bathroom), which is relatively large. The children can choose a theme there, which will turn it into a kind of playroom with appropriate lighting and design. In addition to the guest room / playroom.
@kaho674: By the way, you also mention that we’re cramming the bedroom into the ground floor and that this will cause a lifelong shortage of space. I’m not sure what dimensions you consider to be adequate for space. However, the living/dining/kitchen area is quite spacious at about 60m² (645 ft²), and the bedroom/dressing room/bathroom area is also generous. What standards are you using here?
Pinky0301 schrieb:
Cool, now you have an extra guest bathroom! Wouldn’t it be better to swap the bathroom and bedroom in the master area in case someone wants to sleep in longer? We thought about that at first as well. But for me, it’s more important to get from the bedroom to the kitchen quickly and to be able to hear the kids in the attic when the door is open, just in case (as I said, they’re still little). This way we keep an eye on things. The bedroom now faces the forest, where it’s quieter. At the front, there are neighbors’ terraces, which might get noisy in summer. But thanks for the suggestion.
Regarding the guest bathroom: with this layout, there was no alternative. I don’t want guests to have to pass through the bedroom, but this way it makes sense because no space is wasted compared to the previous plan.
464!RDO schrieb:
Yes, of course it’s a personal matter. What else would it be? There are several reasons not to use the basement as living space. For example, I find a nearby busy street concerning, or the side with windows faces completely north. Frequent flash floods or flooding from a nearby river, and so on.
“Personal” to me just means there is no clear reason other than “I don’t like it,” which is totally fine. Until now, nothing specific was mentioned.
The room sizes are okay. But when evaluating, the entire project is taken into account. I see three floors where you could easily save about 30m² (320 ft²) by using the rooms differently. But of course, personal preferences matter most. So you simply have a lot of extra space. If it fits your budget, why not?
Regarding the latest draft:
An enclosed bathroom and walk-in closet—I don’t personally find that too bad; it would only be inconvenient if you work in shifts or something like that.
I would add a window to the walk-in closet and only put a sideboard on one side. Most people have more socks than ball gowns—at least I do. A nice double sliding door to the bedroom means you can leave a sweater and pants lying around without causing any shock.
A guest toilet without a window is a pity. I would have the door open outwards here and include a small guest sink so even larger guests can comfortably use the toilet. But I would only use a standard 77 cm (30 inches) door.
464!RDO schrieb:
@kaho674 : By the way, you also mentioned that we’re squeezing the bedroom into the ground floor and that this will result in a lifelong lack of space. I’m not sure what dimensions you consider reasonable for sufficient space.Yes, that referred to the first draft, mainly concerning the narrow hallway and, in my opinion, the relatively few wardrobe meters or small walk-in closet. The first issue was resolved, and regarding the second: this shouldn’t be misunderstood. In a house with 160m² (1,722 sq ft), I find those sizes absolutely excellent. But in your case, how much is it? 250m² (2,691 sq ft)? And then only a standard walk-in closet with 6 linear meters (about 20 feet) of wardrobe space? In my 170m² (1,830 sq ft) house, I have 7 linear meters (about 23 feet), and I wouldn’t want any less. But again, it’s a matter of personal preferences. Some women have a lot of shoes, others get by with just three pairs.Similar topics