ᐅ Tiling incurs additional costs.

Created on: 1 Dec 2020 21:21
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Silvia79
Hello everyone,

We are currently building a single-family house turnkey through a local construction company. Basically, the price includes a fully tiled ground floor, a tiled staircase, and, of course, the bathroom.

We have now selected tiles, and for the hallway as well as the living and dining areas, approximately 50 sqm (540 sq ft), plus the staircase (22 sqm (240 sq ft)), these tiles are larger format and also more expensive. However, the other tiles are even slightly (not worth mentioning) cheaper than the price quoted by the builder.

The additional material cost comes to just under 5000 euros. Unfortunately, the tile dealer only told us the net tile price, otherwise, at 95 euros per sqm (9 dollars per sq ft), I probably would have reconsidered. But now we have fallen in love with the tile since it really looks like wood.

Additionally, there are about 1000 euros for extra tiling in the utility room (which I find completely reasonable and expected).

Also, it was clear to me that laying the larger-format tiles would cost more.

That's why I generously calculated additional costs of 7000-8000 euros (although I estimated somewhat lower material costs).

But…

the quote really shocked me.

Almost 12,000 euros.

About 35 euros per sqm (3.25 dollars per sq ft) extra for installing the large-format tiles, I think they are 120 x 20 cm (47 x 8 inches).

Plus about 7 euros per meter (2 dollars per foot) for water jet cutting.

Additionally, the tiles we thought were standard rectified tiles, and the tiler charges about 23 euros per sqm (2.15 dollars per sq ft) extra for installing them.

There are stainless steel edge profiles instead of the included plastic edge profiles, but on top of the material cost increase, an additional around 33 euros per meter (10 dollars per foot) is charged for installation.

(The approximately because I did not convert the prices exactly from net to gross.)

The extra costs seem very high to me, also compared to what I have read online. Or is this actually realistic?

The posts I found were already quite old.
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borderpuschl
2 Dec 2020 08:41
What about the baseboards?
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nordanney
2 Dec 2020 08:47
Silvia79 schrieb:

No one in the showroom mentioned the rectified edges to us, and we didn’t pay attention to that when selecting. These tiles are standard in both size and price.

And with regular installation, they are also standard in price. Rectified simply means that the edges have been mechanically finished—otherwise, they are tiles like any other. They can be installed the same way. If you don’t insist on a 1-2mm (0.04-0.08 inch) grout joint, there is no difference in the installation. By the way, I wouldn’t even know when I last saw decent tiles that weren’t rectified or calibrated. This is actually the standard, especially with porcelain stoneware!
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Silvia79
2 Dec 2020 08:48
Scout schrieb:

Have the 120 x 20 cut into 60 x 20 so you stay within the size without extra costs!

Then I would pay for the cutting, and the edges would still be rectified. I wouldn’t even save 600 euros on 50 square meters (about 540 sq ft). So it’s not really worth it, and with wood-look tiles, the fact that they resemble wooden planks is what matters. 60 x 20 just looks odd.

I’m going to ask if they also have non-rectified tiles, since with wall tiles it’s about 90 square meters (970 sq ft), and then I’d have my 2000 euros.

At the showroom, I just got the impression that except for the very cheap tiles, all were rectified.
Tolentino2 Dec 2020 08:51
That would be a bit like a restaurant owner bringing a pre-filleted fish to their chef, and the chef then immediately asking for a raise.
It probably happens, too, but at least you know what you’re dealing with.
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Scout
2 Dec 2020 10:15
Silvia79 schrieb:

The lady at the showroom simply didn’t inform us that these tiles have rectified edges and that this would add an extra 23 euros per square meter (2.14 sq ft) for installation.

In general, she didn’t disclose any additional costs for certain types of tiles, even when we asked.

We’ll probably have to visit the showroom again and make a new selection.

If you didn’t sample directly at the manufacturer, the showroom assistant can’t really know what prices the tiler charges or what was agreed as the "standard" arrangement between you, the main contractor, and the tiler. They probably have hundreds of tilers sending their clients there to select materials.

She can only provide her suggested retail price, and the tiler is primarily interested in the net price. You’re just sampling there; the tiler is the one actually purchasing. If your choice requires additional work, it’s the tiler who will give you a price, not the showroom assistant. The same usually applies to sanitary fittings as well. Have you already been through that?
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Silvia79
2 Dec 2020 10:28
No, we selected the tiles directly with the tiler who is also carrying out the work. He has his own showroom. The lady who advised us also prepared the quote.

The prices in the showroom should therefore be the prices that the tiler charges the end customer. They were displayed with both gross and net prices. Of course, we assumed the gross price. However, she had ordered the wood-look tile separately. We had initially chosen a similar tile that was no longer available; it would have been significantly cheaper. Since there was nothing similar in the showroom, the lady ordered samples from various manufacturers. Unfortunately, this very expensive one (95 euros per square meter, which I think is really expensive) was the only one that matched the color tone. The others were either too dark, reddish, or grayish. However, this tile wasn’t labeled with prices, so it’s possible she accidentally gave us the net tile price. She just looked it up in the list, and a mistake could easily have happened. I don’t want to suggest it was intentional. Still, if I had known, I wouldn’t have asked for an offer on that tile.

But at least we’ve now removed the stainless steel profiles. Aluminum works fine for me as well. I didn’t want stainless steel from the start, but she convinced us to use it.

Let’s see if they will offer us a better price. Or if we will choose different tiles after all.