ᐅ Installing Network Cables

Created on: 13 Feb 2020 12:56
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Stadtvilla19
Hello,

we are currently building an urban villa with a separate apartment, which my mother will move into. Since we don’t need a landline phone, we want to share an internet connection.

I have little to no knowledge about this matter.

However, I have already heard from someone that I should connect the main router in our house to the telecom connection, then run an Ethernet cable to the separate apartment. This way, the apartment would have its own Wi-Fi, and we would need a DECT phone connected to the main router in our house, if I understood correctly…

Additionally, I want to run an Ethernet cable to the TV to connect it, and I would like a central Wi-Fi setup in the house (we are building with an open gallery). Therefore, I think it will be enough to have a Wi-Fi repeater connected to the Fritzbox via Ethernet cable. Since this will be in the utility room, it probably won’t cover every corner of the house.

Can someone help me with the best way to set this up and what equipment I will need?

I already have Cat 7 cable, which is supposed to be more future-proof ‍♂. It is also clear that I will first install flush-mounted sockets with conduits wherever needed… and then
Mycraft15 Feb 2020 10:54
Stadtvilla19 schrieb:

In my opinion, geothermal energy is a great option for a small house and represents the future. Obviously, the costs are still high compared to gas, but as I said, gas keeps getting more and more expensive every year.

You are mistaken. In fact, gas prices have become cheaper again or have remained more or less stable over the past 10 years. Electricity prices, on the other hand, continue to rise steadily, and the costs for heat pumps are not still high but will also remain high as long as the prices for the technology are paid directly by the end user.

But basically, everything is getting more expensive, and in the end, it doesn’t matter over 30 years which option you choose.





Stadtvilla19 schrieb:

In my view, anyone building new who opts for gas is living in the past.

Well, that’s your opinion, and we have freedom of speech here in Germany.
Stadtvilla19 schrieb:

Or rather, many would like to use alternative energies, but since they are usually very expensive, they end up installing gas after all.

Certainly, many more people would heat their homes with alternative energies. But not as long as the total sums are similar to those from 20 and 10 years ago and still persist today.

Most only build with heat pumps when it is cost-neutral, when they are absolutely convinced, when they are persuaded by salespeople, or when gas is too expensive, unavailable, or too far from the house.

However, if significant additional costs are involved (which start with the price of the system itself), many still choose fossil fuels. Because purely economically, it is still cheaper.

It’s also interesting to see that gas is considered the cleanest fossil fuel for vehicles, with public transport companies like BSR, BVG, etc. mainly relying on gas, and it being promoted in many ways. Even regular consumers are encouraged to use it. But when it comes to houses, gas suddenly becomes bad, harmful, and polluting, etc. Somehow, a double standard is applied, isn’t it?
Stadtvilla19 schrieb:

Many people building simply believe they will not recover the extra costs of a heat pump within 30 years, so it’s not worth it for them.

They don’t, as you can verify by looking at past figures. The technology isn’t new at all, despite being marketed as such everywhere. It’s just been repackaged and improved in efficiency slightly. But other heating technologies have also continued to evolve.

Another difference is that with heat pumps, you must be meticulous (throughout the entire lifespan) to ensure everything runs 100% optimally. Even a partially dirty heat exchanger, an unfavorable installation, too high comfort temperatures, or other factors can ruin the entire calculation and eliminate the expected savings. In this forum, questions like “Hmm, my heat pump is using too much power, what’s going on?” come up regularly.

Other heating sources are less sensitive and cope better with such issues. I speak from experience, having worked with both gas and heat pumps professionally and privately.
Stadtvilla19 schrieb:

In my opinion, geothermal energy is a great alternative for a small house and the future.

Yes, it is an alternative—just as a car is an alternative to a bicycle, or a house is an alternative to renting.
Stadtvilla19 schrieb:

By the way, there were Sunday driving bans in the 1970s because of oil shortages.

Exactly. Now, 50 years later, although oil shortages have been declared multiple times and the end of fossil fuels is warned about every few years, most people still heat with fossil fuels. And the good old fireplace is even making a comeback. Oh, and most cars worldwide still run on gasoline, diesel, or gas. So, what do we learn from this?
11ant15 Feb 2020 13:53
Two preliminary remarks: I had largely switched to offline hobbies for two days, which is why I’m catching up on several days’ worth of “old” posts; and I only found façade pictures without floor plans in your thread history (City villa with “traveling window”), so I’m replying without reference to specific room locations.
Stadtvilla19 schrieb:

So, would the phone then be connected to the router in the granny flat?
You said you share the internet, and the granny flat is your mother, a person I wouldn’t mind sharing a VLAN with for our phones. So, I would run two cables to the double outlet in the granny flat and integrate the user “Mother” into two VLANs on the “main router”: one for telephony for the entire family, and one for internet (with its own Wi-Fi access point) just for her. Her phone (DECT / CAT-iq) consists of a base station, which appears as an IP phone to the “main router,” and one or more handsets—there are also DECT headsets—controlled by her own base. I would rather not register her handset(s) directly on the “main router.” She doesn’t need a “secondary router”; the access data for her SIP account can be registered by both the base station and the “main router.”
Evolith schrieb:

The electrician runs a cable with a double socket into every room, including the granny flat.
A double cable with a double socket, yes.
Stadtvilla19 schrieb:

I want my children to be able to spend a 2-hour car ride with a book, etc.
One, two, three — from the harmonica in the glove compartment. Or looking out for funny car license plates. I (51) believe in the renaissance of analog natives more firmly than others believe in the end of the world.
Stadtvilla19 schrieb:

But upstairs there’s basically nothing except bathroom, sleeping, and children’s rooms. Good Wi-Fi reception is enough for us there.
Wi-Fi in the sleeping area should be switchable, though. By the way: Wi-Fi or socket is the wrong combination—there should be an “and.” At similar performance, the “wireless cables” are the most expensive. It’s not “cable or wireless” that’s outdated, but “or.”
rick2018 schrieb:

But do you know how many times the oil really should have run out already?
Yes, that was in ’73, a Sunday stroll on the highway. Today’s youth don’t experience anything more exciting than the premiere of a new iPhone model.
Mycraft schrieb:

And the good old fireplace is even experiencing a renaissance. Oh yes, and most cars out there (worldwide) are still running on petrol/diesel/gas.
Who knows, maybe wood gasifiers will make a comeback. In twenty years, teenagers will think e-scooters are for old-timers, and hybrid Goggomobiles and cabin scooters will be parked in front of clubs *smile*
Stadtvilla19 schrieb:

Our charging stations only have one power cable and nothing else, probably installed by a layperson without any idea because they are actually a baker…
Haha. Despite all tradition, bakers are trendier than many other professions. In a few years, paying at the car charging station with the baker’s loyalty card will be common—not with the mineral oil dealer’s card (who are still fast asleep, whereas bakers are early adopters).
Pierre schrieb:

Why does almost every conversation here almost always slip first to a personal level, and then slowly go below the belt?
Sex sells. Or as my late grandmother used to say: You have to have fun at the funeral, or no one will come.
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