ᐅ Installing Network Cables

Created on: 13 Feb 2020 12:56
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Stadtvilla19
Hello,

we are currently building an urban villa with a separate apartment, which my mother will move into. Since we don’t need a landline phone, we want to share an internet connection.

I have little to no knowledge about this matter.

However, I have already heard from someone that I should connect the main router in our house to the telecom connection, then run an Ethernet cable to the separate apartment. This way, the apartment would have its own Wi-Fi, and we would need a DECT phone connected to the main router in our house, if I understood correctly…

Additionally, I want to run an Ethernet cable to the TV to connect it, and I would like a central Wi-Fi setup in the house (we are building with an open gallery). Therefore, I think it will be enough to have a Wi-Fi repeater connected to the Fritzbox via Ethernet cable. Since this will be in the utility room, it probably won’t cover every corner of the house.

Can someone help me with the best way to set this up and what equipment I will need?

I already have Cat 7 cable, which is supposed to be more future-proof ‍♂. It is also clear that I will first install flush-mounted sockets with conduits wherever needed… and then
rick201814 Feb 2020 15:40
You still don’t understand.
There are more modern heating systems... You still haven’t provided any data.
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Stadtvilla19
14 Feb 2020 15:44
rick2018 schrieb:

And how does the wall box know to start charging the car when the sun is shining? You need a connection between the photovoltaic inverter and the wall box, usually via LAN nowadays. You won’t really be able to charge from your battery storage. Neither the capacity nor the output is sufficient. Is your battery storage three-phase?
Do you also have a controlled residential ventilation system? I find the electricity consumption quite low for a modern single-family home with a granny flat. With an electric car, of course, the power demand is higher...
I won’t comment on this so-called energy community concept. It’s like solar power.
No offense, but overall it sounds like you fell for all the marketing hype.
A battery storage system doesn’t pay off nowadays because the purchase, maintenance, and upkeep costs are higher than simply buying electricity all the time. That’s what I meant by a total cost of ownership (TCO) analysis...
Also, over-the-air (OTA) updates usually run via WiFi. Only minor things are done via mobile network.
The CO2 tax is for the Greta crowd. It has nothing to do with scarce fuel resources. You’re not even 30 yet. But do you know how often oil was supposed to have run out already?
I’m not much older and you shouldn’t waste resources, but much of what you write sounds like half-knowledge.
What KfW standard does your house have? KfW40+?
That won’t pay off in your lifetime either...
Insulation made from biodegradable materials?
I’m out here. The whole picture doesn’t add up. Wanting to use HomematicIP without even the basic understanding of networking. No electrician involved either.
No insight either. Like you said yourself, it’s mainly about having a house.
No real data about the house was provided either.
Good luck going forward.


I think you are old and frustrated, and you only pick out what you want to believe—it sounds a lot like an AFD voter. I’m a vehicle mechatronics technician and for us, nobody gets updates via WiFi, not even the car. Our charging stations have only a power cable, nothing else. Probably a layman installed all this who has no clue because he is actually a baker...

Of course, you must have a crystal ball at home and know exactly how electricity and gas prices will develop in the coming years...

The German government wants us to live greener. Whether you think this is right or wrong is debatable, but it will happen, and anyone who saves 3 grams of CO2 has done something good for the world—Greta or no Greta.
rick201814 Feb 2020 15:52
Well, I’m seven years older than you. I’m neither frustrated nor claiming to have a crystal ball. I already mentioned that resources should be conserved. And I don’t support the AfD either.
I probably just have significantly more life experience and responsibility.
I don’t know which manufacturer you work for, but large OTAs over Wi-Fi are quite common.
If you want to reduce CO2 emissions, skip building a new house and opt for an existing property or even better, an existing apartment...
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Pierre
14 Feb 2020 16:11
Why does almost every discussion here first slip into a personal level, and then gradually descend below the belt?
Mycraft14 Feb 2020 16:20
@Pierre
Hmm, this is probably due to insufficient understanding of the overall situation, and forums sometimes encourage people to say things they would never say in real life because of the perceived anonymity.
Stadtvilla19 schrieb:

Of course, you must also have a crystal ball at home and know how electricity and gas prices will develop in the coming years...

That’s not necessarily required; you just need to think for yourself and not rely on what politicians and others tell us. Do you know how many crises there have already been and that oil and gas should have run out long ago? These crises now happen roughly every two years.

Still, we live here in comfortable Germany with moderate prices for fossil fuels.

Politicians themselves don’t really know what they want. Nuclear power—yes or no, then no. Coal—no, then yes again.

But you’ve chosen a heat pump, and that’s a good decision. However, that doesn’t automatically mean gas is bad and old rusty technology is obsolete. In fact, modern gas boilers are extremely efficient and reliable, and they are more affordable upfront.
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Stadtvilla19
15 Feb 2020 10:04
In my opinion, anyone building a new home and relying on gas is living in the past. Many would prefer to use alternative energy sources, but since these are often very expensive, they end up choosing gas instead. Many people building homes simply believe that the extra cost of a heat pump won’t pay off within 30 years, so they don’t think it’s worth it. It’s a pity that people think this way and instead spend money on other things and then cut back on what really matters (like a garage for the SUV). For us, it was always clear that if we were going to build, it had to be done properly and with the future in mind.

The same applies to diesel – it’s a great technology but also has no future in passenger cars... Diesel will always be needed in heavy-duty sectors, though. Likewise, you can’t heat an 11-story building in Marzahn with geothermal energy. Everything has to be used as needed.

In my view, geothermal energy is a great alternative and the future for smaller houses. Of course, the costs are still high compared to gas, but as I said, gas keeps getting more and more expensive each year.

Whether resources will become scarce or run out during your lifetime is debatable. But thinking this way is quite selfish. I don’t know if any of you have children or will have grandchildren someday—they will want to live in peace and not suffer from the consequences of your stubbornness and outdated thinking.

By the way, there were even Sunday driving bans in the 1970s because oil was scarce. We are all dependent on the government—if someday they say you can only enter the city in an electric car or on a bike, then that’s how it will be. If building permits / planning permission in the future are only granted for homes heated without fossil fuels, then that will be the case as well!

How exactly can I save energy with an existing apartment? Just because it already exists? It also consumed energy to build it originally. When I build new, I create living space for five people… Otherwise, living in an existing property makes you quite a significant environmental sinner.

At our place, we have a gas boiler that is anything but environmentally friendly or efficient. We use 17,000 kWh of gas per year to heat 80 square meters (860 square feet); that amount could heat three KfW 55-standard homes, and no, we don’t keep the apartment at 24°C (75°F). Unfortunately, we’re stuck and dependent on the landlord, so I can’t change anything here. There’s also the parking shortage in big cities—instead of parking in a carport, I sometimes drive 3 kilometers (2 miles) around the block aimlessly looking for a parking space, which certainly isn’t resource-friendly. I can’t produce my own electricity; I depend on utility providers and their rising prices. I can’t install better windows or insulation. I can’t afford an electric car because I can’t run a charging cable out the window and across the street, and the nearest charging station is 3 kilometers (2 miles) away. I can’t go outside to the garden to plant flowers for the bees.

Now tell me again, living in a rental apartment is so much better for the environment.

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