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benkler140129 Sep 2017 15:12Hello everyone,
We are currently in the final construction phase and have had a laundry chute installed retroactively in DN300 from the upper floor down to the basement. It passes through 3 levels (2 ceilings) and was concreted into each respective ceiling. The DN300 pipe was pushed through the 35cm (14 inch) wide utility shaft before the screed was applied.
I have read a lot online about clamps, decoupling, sound insulation, etc., and now I’m a bit unsure. Maybe you can help me:
Current situation:
DN300 pipe consisting of 3 segments of 1 meter (3.3 feet) each plus a branch (DN300/DN300) for the chute opening. These 3 pipe segments were concreted into 2 concrete ceilings (done by the developer).
Our idea now was to add 2 more 1-meter (3.3 feet) segments onto the branch on the upper floor to keep the option open for another chute opening in the attic later on. However, the question arises: how to fix these? Clamps would be difficult because the shaft is only lined with drywall and there is no masonry wall around the pipe. We could build some support on the attic floor / upper floor ceiling, but clamps might not work well there either.
I believe that with about 5 meters (16.4 feet) of DN300 pipe, the two concreted points are not enough. What do you think? We are talking about approximately 50-60 kg (110-132 lbs).
Also, the question is whether the developer decoupled the pipes? I suspect not, which I think could be a major problem.
I often read about using rock wool or sheep wool for insulation, but I’m not sure exactly where it should be applied—only before concreting (between concrete and pipe?), or around the entire run of the pipe?
Thank you all very much.
I’m really out of ideas.
We are currently in the final construction phase and have had a laundry chute installed retroactively in DN300 from the upper floor down to the basement. It passes through 3 levels (2 ceilings) and was concreted into each respective ceiling. The DN300 pipe was pushed through the 35cm (14 inch) wide utility shaft before the screed was applied.
I have read a lot online about clamps, decoupling, sound insulation, etc., and now I’m a bit unsure. Maybe you can help me:
Current situation:
DN300 pipe consisting of 3 segments of 1 meter (3.3 feet) each plus a branch (DN300/DN300) for the chute opening. These 3 pipe segments were concreted into 2 concrete ceilings (done by the developer).
Our idea now was to add 2 more 1-meter (3.3 feet) segments onto the branch on the upper floor to keep the option open for another chute opening in the attic later on. However, the question arises: how to fix these? Clamps would be difficult because the shaft is only lined with drywall and there is no masonry wall around the pipe. We could build some support on the attic floor / upper floor ceiling, but clamps might not work well there either.
I believe that with about 5 meters (16.4 feet) of DN300 pipe, the two concreted points are not enough. What do you think? We are talking about approximately 50-60 kg (110-132 lbs).
Also, the question is whether the developer decoupled the pipes? I suspect not, which I think could be a major problem.
I often read about using rock wool or sheep wool for insulation, but I’m not sure exactly where it should be applied—only before concreting (between concrete and pipe?), or around the entire run of the pipe?
Thank you all very much.
I’m really out of ideas.
You throw textiles through, not vibration plates – so why would there be such loud noise that you need soundproofing? It won’t happen that often that the kids ask the pipe who the mayor of Wesel is *LOL*
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Bau-Schmidt29 Sep 2017 20:31benkler1401 schrieb:
We are talking about approximately 50-60 kg (110-132 lbs) What weighs that much?B
benkler140129 Sep 2017 20:55The tube, meaning the laundry chute. Approximately 7m (23 feet) long with a branch, about 10kg (22 lbs) per meter.
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The tube, meaning the laundry chute. About 7 m (23 ft) with a branch, approximately 10 kg (22 lbs) per meterAnd besides the fact that it gets stuck in the ceiling openings, you’re worried that nothing supports it?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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benkler140129 Sep 2017 21:06Yes, it would be secured only at two ceiling penetrations, with no other attachments.
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