Hello everyone,
I more or less stumbled upon a plot of land after someone let their reservation expire.
The plot is about 606 square meters (6,521 square feet), according to my "measurement" approximately 18.10 meters by 33.50 meters (60 feet by 110 feet), not officially surveyed yet, and now I’m wondering exactly what I can do with it.
The development plan sets out the following for "my plot":
Here I have placed an example house measuring 9.60 meters by 11.95 meters (31.5 feet by 39 feet), which I like based on my initial review (Viebrockhaus Edition 600).
Next to the house, in the 5.50-meter (18 feet) wide space there would be a carport – is that enough space for two parking spots? I would prefer not to make the house narrower just to accommodate vehicles... but then there’s hardly any room left for fencing?!
The terrace and garden at the back are, of course, limited by the tall trees – but that’s a compromise I’ll have to accept.
I’ve never built a house in my life before... so this is my first time dealing with this topic in detail. What would you do in this situation? Make the house a bit smaller?
If you need more information, just ask – as I said, I’m a beginner and eager to learn 🙂
My wishes are:
- Starting from 160 square meters (1,722 square feet) upwards
- I’m currently thinking about a basement and budget around $100k extra for it
- I don’t like long corridors
Once the plot situation is reasonably clear, I’d like to hear your advice on floor plans – that will surely be a more extensive topic.
Best regards
I more or less stumbled upon a plot of land after someone let their reservation expire.
The plot is about 606 square meters (6,521 square feet), according to my "measurement" approximately 18.10 meters by 33.50 meters (60 feet by 110 feet), not officially surveyed yet, and now I’m wondering exactly what I can do with it.
The development plan sets out the following for "my plot":
- 0.35 floor area ratio
- Single-story buildings only
- Maximum building height 10 meters (33 feet)
- Eave height max 4.50 meters (15 feet)
- One driveway with max width of 4 meters (13 feet)
- Two parking spaces are mandatory
- Roof pitch between 15° and 51°
- Roofs of garages etc. may differ in shape
- Garages, carports, and ancillary buildings as defined by §14 (1) of the building use ordinance, which are buildings, must not exceed the street-side building boundaries of the access roads.
- Dormers and roof recesses: the total length of dormers or roof recesses per roof side may not exceed 50% of the total length of that roof side.
- Standard distance to property boundary is 3 meters (10 feet)
- In the southern area, there is an 8-meter (26 feet) deep strip across the full width of the plot (approx. 18 meters (60 feet)) where trees and shrubs must be preserved. This area is quite densely vegetated and reaches heights up to 10 meters (33 feet) – I’ve tried to visualize this below
- In the middle of this vegetation is a downward slope... the building boundary to this strip was reduced from the normal 3 meters to 2 meters (7 feet) so the plots aren’t too restricted.
Here I have placed an example house measuring 9.60 meters by 11.95 meters (31.5 feet by 39 feet), which I like based on my initial review (Viebrockhaus Edition 600).
Next to the house, in the 5.50-meter (18 feet) wide space there would be a carport – is that enough space for two parking spots? I would prefer not to make the house narrower just to accommodate vehicles... but then there’s hardly any room left for fencing?!
The terrace and garden at the back are, of course, limited by the tall trees – but that’s a compromise I’ll have to accept.
I’ve never built a house in my life before... so this is my first time dealing with this topic in detail. What would you do in this situation? Make the house a bit smaller?
If you need more information, just ask – as I said, I’m a beginner and eager to learn 🙂
My wishes are:
- Starting from 160 square meters (1,722 square feet) upwards
- I’m currently thinking about a basement and budget around $100k extra for it
- I don’t like long corridors
Once the plot situation is reasonably clear, I’d like to hear your advice on floor plans – that will surely be a more extensive topic.
Best regards
ypg schrieb:
You forgot the additional construction costs.Those should actually be included in the 60k for miscellaneous expenses, but as I said, that’s not the main point right now...ypg schrieb:
And the basement with 100sqm (1,076 sq ft) of living-quality space (home theater) will definitely cost more than 1000 per sqm.I don’t need living-quality for that. A heated space with 2.15 meters (7 ft) height is enough.ypg schrieb:
I think you’re getting ahead of yourself. Right now it’s just about whether the plot fits your house requirements.Yes, that’s true... but of course, you also do a rough mental calculation.ypg schrieb:
An underground garage in the basement needs a ramp. I don’t see one on this plot.No Bat-Cave, you say? 😉ypg schrieb:
5.50 meters (18 ft) would of course be sufficient. Personally, I would want more. I would bend the ground floor sideways for the parking spaces as the E600 model does at the front, for example.Interesting idea... they also offer the house with a gable end entrance — could be an option to try out.ypg schrieb:
In my opinion, the house doesn’t fit the plot: it’s too wide and has an unappealingly long hallway, which you don’t like anyway. Also, placing the utility room (or storage space) in the nice west-facing part isn’t ideal.As I said, it’s just an initial idea... I have to start somewhere and probably no first-time builder has immediately drawn their final floor plan. You have to test the boundaries and learn what works and what doesn’t — that’s why I’m here 😉 And regarding the utility room in the west... mirroring the floor plan shouldn’t be a problem.ypg schrieb:
The guest parking... if two parking spaces are required, that refers to the property.I understand... but a single garage plus a parking space in front would be an option at least. I just wanted to say there are other parking options nearby. Of course, no one wants to park two cars one behind the other all the time.ypg schrieb:
Think about whether you want to build with a general contractor or an architect. I see an architect as the right choice here. Especially if the plot has quirks and you can afford it, you should plan a customized solution with special details.An architect is definitely an option... I’ll need to get informed about that. It’s like it often is here: some acquaintances had good experiences with Viebrockhaus — so naturally, you look at what’s available in their catalog. No question there are other options and they must be checked.11ant schrieb:
Then the house needs to be narrower or you have to park precisely or adjust the shed access accordingly to the middle path. Overall, this set of requirements still seems quite tight.Yes, I agree... the set of requirements is currently “only” limited by the plot width... if I make the house half a meter (1.5 ft) narrower, 6 meters (20 ft) should really be enough. It still won’t be pure luxury, but what can you do... one thing I’ve learned is that you can’t have everything. A perfect plot where everything fits doesn’t exist here — or it costs four times as much. There is still the option not to take THIS plot — but that probably means waiting a few years, and I’m not really in the mood for that right now... especially since any future plot will also have its own issues. 18 by 32 meters (59 by 105 ft) shouldn’t be a disaster. We will see...Some considerations: Check what “single-story” means in your federal state, but I seem to remember there are differences between Schleswig-Holstein and Hamburg ?. Headroom on the upper floor can also be affected by knee wall height and roof pitch. Single-story status can also be influenced by bay windows on the ground floor.
The longer the house, the smaller the garden. Would it be possible, parking-wise, to park a car in front of the house, essentially in the front yard, and have a parking space next to the house? Then the house could be wider, resulting in a deeper garden.
A basement is definitely a luxury. However, I know many who regret not having at least a garage.
The longer the house, the smaller the garden. Would it be possible, parking-wise, to park a car in front of the house, essentially in the front yard, and have a parking space next to the house? Then the house could be wider, resulting in a deeper garden.
A basement is definitely a luxury. However, I know many who regret not having at least a garage.
I would suggest adding something to the price of 360k. My brother-in-law had an offer from Viebrockhaus for a similarly sized house with custom planning. A different ballpark.
After all, you don’t want your home theater in unfinished walls, without flooring, with just a bare bulb on the ceiling.
Take it step by step.
After all, you don’t want your home theater in unfinished walls, without flooring, with just a bare bulb on the ceiling.
Take it step by step.
I already did… I have budgeted an additional 60k for extra requests and electrical work in the breakdown. Don’t focus too much on the home theater… the homeowner doesn’t need to do much there. I’ll lay the carpet myself, the walls just need to be dark, and lighting is rather secondary… the walls will be covered anyway. So the room itself is the least of the problems. As I said: whether I’m ultimately willing to pay such a premium for this request—we’ll see…
? At least with Viebrockhaus, the following are included in the base price:
Do you really think that budgeting 600,000 euros (about 660,000 USD) for the house and garden is tight? As I said, that’s not really the point here, but if it turns out to be 50,000 euros (about 55,000 USD) more expensive, then so be it.
- Heat pump heating
- Underfloor cooling
- Central ventilation system
- Photovoltaic system
- Battery storage
- Air humidification
- Preparation for wall box (electric vehicle charger)
Do you really think that budgeting 600,000 euros (about 660,000 USD) for the house and garden is tight? As I said, that’s not really the point here, but if it turns out to be 50,000 euros (about 55,000 USD) more expensive, then so be it.
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