Hello everyone,
I more or less stumbled upon a plot of land after someone let their reservation expire.
The plot is about 606 square meters (6,521 square feet), according to my "measurement" approximately 18.10 meters by 33.50 meters (60 feet by 110 feet), not officially surveyed yet, and now I’m wondering exactly what I can do with it.
The development plan sets out the following for "my plot":
Here I have placed an example house measuring 9.60 meters by 11.95 meters (31.5 feet by 39 feet), which I like based on my initial review (Viebrockhaus Edition 600).
Next to the house, in the 5.50-meter (18 feet) wide space there would be a carport – is that enough space for two parking spots? I would prefer not to make the house narrower just to accommodate vehicles... but then there’s hardly any room left for fencing?!
The terrace and garden at the back are, of course, limited by the tall trees – but that’s a compromise I’ll have to accept.
I’ve never built a house in my life before... so this is my first time dealing with this topic in detail. What would you do in this situation? Make the house a bit smaller?
If you need more information, just ask – as I said, I’m a beginner and eager to learn 🙂
My wishes are:
- Starting from 160 square meters (1,722 square feet) upwards
- I’m currently thinking about a basement and budget around $100k extra for it
- I don’t like long corridors
Once the plot situation is reasonably clear, I’d like to hear your advice on floor plans – that will surely be a more extensive topic.
Best regards
I more or less stumbled upon a plot of land after someone let their reservation expire.
The plot is about 606 square meters (6,521 square feet), according to my "measurement" approximately 18.10 meters by 33.50 meters (60 feet by 110 feet), not officially surveyed yet, and now I’m wondering exactly what I can do with it.
The development plan sets out the following for "my plot":
- 0.35 floor area ratio
- Single-story buildings only
- Maximum building height 10 meters (33 feet)
- Eave height max 4.50 meters (15 feet)
- One driveway with max width of 4 meters (13 feet)
- Two parking spaces are mandatory
- Roof pitch between 15° and 51°
- Roofs of garages etc. may differ in shape
- Garages, carports, and ancillary buildings as defined by §14 (1) of the building use ordinance, which are buildings, must not exceed the street-side building boundaries of the access roads.
- Dormers and roof recesses: the total length of dormers or roof recesses per roof side may not exceed 50% of the total length of that roof side.
- Standard distance to property boundary is 3 meters (10 feet)
- In the southern area, there is an 8-meter (26 feet) deep strip across the full width of the plot (approx. 18 meters (60 feet)) where trees and shrubs must be preserved. This area is quite densely vegetated and reaches heights up to 10 meters (33 feet) – I’ve tried to visualize this below
- In the middle of this vegetation is a downward slope... the building boundary to this strip was reduced from the normal 3 meters to 2 meters (7 feet) so the plots aren’t too restricted.
Here I have placed an example house measuring 9.60 meters by 11.95 meters (31.5 feet by 39 feet), which I like based on my initial review (Viebrockhaus Edition 600).
Next to the house, in the 5.50-meter (18 feet) wide space there would be a carport – is that enough space for two parking spots? I would prefer not to make the house narrower just to accommodate vehicles... but then there’s hardly any room left for fencing?!
The terrace and garden at the back are, of course, limited by the tall trees – but that’s a compromise I’ll have to accept.
I’ve never built a house in my life before... so this is my first time dealing with this topic in detail. What would you do in this situation? Make the house a bit smaller?
If you need more information, just ask – as I said, I’m a beginner and eager to learn 🙂
My wishes are:
- Starting from 160 square meters (1,722 square feet) upwards
- I’m currently thinking about a basement and budget around $100k extra for it
- I don’t like long corridors
Once the plot situation is reasonably clear, I’d like to hear your advice on floor plans – that will surely be a more extensive topic.
Best regards
I find 5.5 m (18 feet) narrow for a carport. However, I wouldn’t limit the house when it comes to parking spaces.
In Bad Vilbel, Hanse Haus has an 8 m (26 feet) wide show home. It has two full floors, though.
A single-family house fits on the plot. Set your budget. Create a room plan for yourself—not just “bedroom” or “children’s room,” but for example, bedroom with a bed 2 x 2.4 m (6.6 x 7.9 feet), a 4 m (13 feet) closet, possibly a dressing room.
Make a list of essentials and nice-to-haves.
Floor plans are usually designed to accommodate families of four in some way. What isn’t considered are individual needs: shoe collections, books, sewing room, storage for diving gear, etc.
What use is a basement if you can just afford it but don’t actually need it?
In Bad Vilbel, Hanse Haus has an 8 m (26 feet) wide show home. It has two full floors, though.
A single-family house fits on the plot. Set your budget. Create a room plan for yourself—not just “bedroom” or “children’s room,” but for example, bedroom with a bed 2 x 2.4 m (6.6 x 7.9 feet), a 4 m (13 feet) closet, possibly a dressing room.
Make a list of essentials and nice-to-haves.
Floor plans are usually designed to accommodate families of four in some way. What isn’t considered are individual needs: shoe collections, books, sewing room, storage for diving gear, etc.
What use is a basement if you can just afford it but don’t actually need it?
11ant schrieb:
It might be tight to keep it a single-story.Wow. Really? Interestingly, you can’t find the house heights anywhere — but there are good pictures, and by my calculation, the eaves height of the E600 is around 4.30 m (14 ft), and the overall height is about 7 plus something meters. Viebrockhaus also doesn’t list it as a two-story house. From when exactly would it count as two stories? It probably also has to do with the living space area, right? Otherwise, I think it should actually be fine.
haydee schrieb:
5.5 m (18 ft) for a carport seems narrow to me. But I wouldn’t limit the house for parking spaces.
In Bad Vilbel, Hanse Haus has an 8 m (26 ft) wide model home. But it has two full stories. Yes, I also find that narrow... but as you said: making compromises on the house just to fit two cars properly is kind of annoying... A parking space in front of the garage probably counts as a second parking space, right? Parking one behind the other of course doesn’t require any amusement tax 😉 Opposite my house, there will be a parking bay... so someone could park externally too?! Unfortunately, model home parks are closed — I would love to go there for inspiration, and who knows when they’ll be allowed to open again.
haydee schrieb:
A single-family home will fit on the plot. Fix your budget. Create a room plan for yourself. Not just bedrooms, kids’ rooms, etc., but for example: bedroom with a bed 2 x 2.4 m (6.5 x 8 ft), 4 m (13 ft) wardrobe, possibly a dressing room.
Make a list of must-haves and nice-to-haves.
Floor plans generally fit four-person families somehow. What is often not considered are individual requirements: shoe collections, books, sewing room, storage for diving gear, etc.
What’s the use of a basement only because you can afford it?My budget is relatively flexible. As it stands, it should meet our wishes and not be limited by money — but in the end, it is, of course, a cost-benefit question. Excessive overbuilding is totally pointless. The basement is a good example: I’d like one because 1) I have always wanted a (proper) home theater, 2) I prefer having laundry and technical installations in the basement, and 3) there’s additional storage space, especially since the lot doesn’t allow for an oversized garage that could also be used for storage. But whether I’m willing to invest over 100,000 euros for these three points? I’m not sure yet... but I also don’t want to regret it later 🙂
The tip about individual requirements is definitely good — I hadn’t thought of it that way.
Currently, there are two of us. It’s supposed to be three someday. Actually not four — but I’d rather have one extra room than one too few. If we "only" become three, there’s usually a use for an empty room. If we become four, missing a room of course wouldn’t be great. A shower in the guest bathroom near the entrance would be nice (small dog), but it’s not a must.
We don’t have any wild hobbies that require large storage space. I would like an office — it doesn’t have to be big. Otherwise, there is an electric car (2 m (6.5 ft) wide) and currently a small car (1.75 m (5.7 ft) wide) — but with kids, that might be replaced by something bigger. There are also two big e-bikes (shed behind the carport?).
Otherwise, the usual: living room, preferably an open large kitchen. The bedroom should not be too small — I don’t like walls 80 cm (2.6 ft) away from the bed. A dressing room is a nice feature. The bathroom can be larger than average. We both like baths, but an extra shower must be there — two sinks aren’t really necessary but don’t hurt either. A bit of room to move around in the bathroom would be nice.
In our opinion, all of this fits quite well with the E600.
Make this exact list for yourself. Draw everything to scale. What exploded in your experience with a child is the wardrobe and the pile of laundry.
Building is extremely expensive. Be sure to check out the financing section here.
It’s a pity that model home parks are closed. Get catalogs. Most suppliers are flexible.
Look around. You like the dining area at your in-laws’ in terms of size, so measure it. The guest bathroom at your friend’s place annoys you because it’s too tight. Ask about the dimensions. Etc.
Building is extremely expensive. Be sure to check out the financing section here.
It’s a pity that model home parks are closed. Get catalogs. Most suppliers are flexible.
Look around. You like the dining area at your in-laws’ in terms of size, so measure it. The guest bathroom at your friend’s place annoys you because it’s too tight. Ask about the dimensions. Etc.
haydee schrieb:
Make this exact list for yourself. Draw everything to scale. What feels like it exploded with kids is the wardrobe and the laundry pile.
Building is extremely expensive. Definitely check out the financing section here.
It’s a pity that model home parks are closed. Get catalogs. Most providers are flexible.
Look around. You like the dining area dimensions at your in-laws, so measure it. The guest bathroom at your friend’s place annoys you because it’s too small. Ask for the measurements. Etc. Great ideas, thanks!
Yes, I’ve also realized it’s extremely expensive—fortunately, I earn quite well and have some equity, so it’s not my biggest concern. I’m currently roughly estimating—very approximate:
- Land: 160,000
- Property transfer tax + notary fees: 14,000
- House (for example, the E600 according to the price list): 360,000
- Change requests + selections: 40,000
- Electrical selections: 10,000
- Basement: 100,000
- Kitchen: 20,000
- Terrace, garage, etc.: 60,000
Total sum: around 760,000 or about 660,000 without the basement
Plus/minus 50,000 set aside for unexpected costs—which should be manageable.
You forgot the additional construction costs.
And a cellar with 100 sqm (1,076 sq ft) of living-quality space (home theater) will also cost more than 1,000 per sqm (93 per sq ft).
However, I think you’re rushing a bit here. Right now, it’s just about considering whether the plot matches your house requirements.
An underground garage in the cellar needs a ramp. I don’t see one on this plot.
5.50 m (18 ft) would of course be sufficient. Personally, I prefer more.
For the parking spaces, I would bend the ground floor sideways, like the E600 does at the front, for example.
This is regulated by the state building code, depending on the region.
In my opinion, the house doesn’t fit the plot: it’s too wide and has an unappealingly long corridor, which you don’t like anyway. You don’t have to plan a utility room (or storage space) on the nice west side.
Guests… if two parking spaces are required, this refers to the spaces on the plot itself.
As I said before, I don’t see the E600 working here.
Consider whether you want to build with a general contractor or an architect. I see this as an architect’s project. Especially if a plot has flaws and you can afford it, you should plan an individual solution with fine details.
And a cellar with 100 sqm (1,076 sq ft) of living-quality space (home theater) will also cost more than 1,000 per sqm (93 per sq ft).
However, I think you’re rushing a bit here. Right now, it’s just about considering whether the plot matches your house requirements.
An underground garage in the cellar needs a ramp. I don’t see one on this plot.
5.50 m (18 ft) would of course be sufficient. Personally, I prefer more.
For the parking spaces, I would bend the ground floor sideways, like the E600 does at the front, for example.
SaschaL schrieb:
Viebrockhaus also doesn’t classify this as a two-story building. From when exactly would it apply? It surely relates to living space, right?
This is regulated by the state building code, depending on the region.
SaschaL schrieb:
In our opinion, all this fits the E600 quite well.
In my opinion, the house doesn’t fit the plot: it’s too wide and has an unappealingly long corridor, which you don’t like anyway. You don’t have to plan a utility room (or storage space) on the nice west side.
SaschaL schrieb:
There will be a parking bay opposite my little house… so someone could park there externally?!
Guests… if two parking spaces are required, this refers to the spaces on the plot itself.
As I said before, I don’t see the E600 working here.
Consider whether you want to build with a general contractor or an architect. I see this as an architect’s project. Especially if a plot has flaws and you can afford it, you should plan an individual solution with fine details.
SaschaL schrieb:
There are still two large e-bikes (shed behind carport?). Then the house will have to be narrower, or precise parking will be necessary, or the shed passageway must be aligned exactly with the central alley. Overall, the package of requirements still seems to me to be a candidate for significant cost-cutting.
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