Hi,
It’s great that a forum like this exists:
In the past, we have been looking for used houses in a specific location. However, for various reasons, we weren’t able to make progress there. Now we have a plot of land that we can buy for about 300,000. Size: just under 600 square meters (about 6,458 square feet). It is not far from a body of water. Behind it is a small slope with detached houses.
Allowed building size: 8 by 12 meters (about 26 by 39 feet), basement, ground floor, upper floor, 40% roof pitch. Next to it, a driveway including a garage.
Directly next to the plot stands a huge beech tree.
Budget: 600,000 (excluding land purchase)
Us: family with two very young children.
I need a separate office (i.e., not on the upper floor).
We really like wooden façades, but we’re not yet sure whether it will be a timber house.
Due to the development plan, it will be difficult to achieve more than 130–140 square meters (about 1,400–1,500 square feet) of living space. Therefore, we want a habitable basement with plenty of natural light. We don’t know the allowed ceiling height or how much the basement can protrude above ground level. Also unclear is whether it is permitted to excavate around it.
Groundwater issues have been a topic nearby before (water comes from the slope).
Currently, these are our questions:
- Is our budget sufficient?
- Should we buy the plot?
- What are the risks?
- What about the water situation?
- Timber house or solid construction, prefab house or not?
- Where could we save money on essential trades and possibly upgrade or replace them later? For example, a carport instead of a garage, gravel instead of a paved driveway.
Alternatively, a developer has offered us a house project. We don’t know the plot yet. The house images look more like prototypes. It seems more like an intermediary who finds plots and matching buyers. Is this a good alternative? Or does it tend to be more expensive? (Roughly 135 square meters (about 1,450 square feet) on 420 square meters (about 4,520 square feet) for 800,000.)
How should one approach such a project? Is there a good checklist or procedure available somewhere? How do you select the right architect? Which service phases should be supervised by them? Which prefab house company is the right one? Or which general contractor or builder? How do you decide between timber and solid construction (is there a checklist for this)?
(Is there a good magazine you recommend?) How do you ultimately decide whether to proceed with the offered plot? There is also some time pressure, as the plot could be gone quickly.
I appreciate all input. I have already browsed the forum a bit but would also be glad if you could link me to the 2–3 most important posts. Any help is much appreciated at this stage.
It’s great that a forum like this exists:
In the past, we have been looking for used houses in a specific location. However, for various reasons, we weren’t able to make progress there. Now we have a plot of land that we can buy for about 300,000. Size: just under 600 square meters (about 6,458 square feet). It is not far from a body of water. Behind it is a small slope with detached houses.
Allowed building size: 8 by 12 meters (about 26 by 39 feet), basement, ground floor, upper floor, 40% roof pitch. Next to it, a driveway including a garage.
Directly next to the plot stands a huge beech tree.
Budget: 600,000 (excluding land purchase)
Us: family with two very young children.
I need a separate office (i.e., not on the upper floor).
We really like wooden façades, but we’re not yet sure whether it will be a timber house.
Due to the development plan, it will be difficult to achieve more than 130–140 square meters (about 1,400–1,500 square feet) of living space. Therefore, we want a habitable basement with plenty of natural light. We don’t know the allowed ceiling height or how much the basement can protrude above ground level. Also unclear is whether it is permitted to excavate around it.
Groundwater issues have been a topic nearby before (water comes from the slope).
Currently, these are our questions:
- Is our budget sufficient?
- Should we buy the plot?
- What are the risks?
- What about the water situation?
- Timber house or solid construction, prefab house or not?
- Where could we save money on essential trades and possibly upgrade or replace them later? For example, a carport instead of a garage, gravel instead of a paved driveway.
Alternatively, a developer has offered us a house project. We don’t know the plot yet. The house images look more like prototypes. It seems more like an intermediary who finds plots and matching buyers. Is this a good alternative? Or does it tend to be more expensive? (Roughly 135 square meters (about 1,450 square feet) on 420 square meters (about 4,520 square feet) for 800,000.)
How should one approach such a project? Is there a good checklist or procedure available somewhere? How do you select the right architect? Which service phases should be supervised by them? Which prefab house company is the right one? Or which general contractor or builder? How do you decide between timber and solid construction (is there a checklist for this)?
(Is there a good magazine you recommend?) How do you ultimately decide whether to proceed with the offered plot? There is also some time pressure, as the plot could be gone quickly.
I appreciate all input. I have already browsed the forum a bit but would also be glad if you could link me to the 2–3 most important posts. Any help is much appreciated at this stage.
Papierturm7 Sep 2024 09:27Alex_mucll schrieb:
Permitted construction: 8 by 12 meters, basement, ground floor, upper floor, 40% roof pitch. Next to it, a driveway including a garage. Building height? Are two full stories allowed? A zoning plan or development plan would be very helpful here. In most federal states, it can be accessed online (links not allowed).Basically, considering the budget and likely conditions, a basement seems very tight to hardly feasible. A soil survey is highly recommended!
Due to the development plan, it will be difficult to achieve more than 130-140 sqm (1400-1500 sq ft) of living space. Development plan?
- Wooden house or solid construction, prefabricated house or not? Hire an architect for design phases 1-3 (often possible at a fixed price). Have the house professionally designed. Obtain quotes from several companies.This is the only way to make a proper comparison. Then you can find the company best suited to you, regardless of whether the construction method is timber frame or masonry.
Also, a useful exercise:
Visit a model home park without signing anything (!). Collect and study building specification documents.
This will prove helpful, no matter how tedious it seems at first.
All the best!
Papierturm schrieb:
Here’s a little exercise:
Visit a model home park, but don’t sign anything (!). Collect and learn to read the building specification documents. But keep in mind (see: when model homes "lie") not to take model homes at face value. Model home parks are places where home sellers expect a high volume of visitors interested in building a house. That’s why they are attractive locations for home sellers. For example, homes from manufacturers who have exited the market are not demolished but rented out by the exhibit operator. So, the house wasn’t even built by the company that sells houses there. Even model homes built by the company on display may not reflect current standards and often include additional features. And: honest sellers are rare in home sales; most salespeople measure their success in "lies per hour."
It’s also very important: never visit model homes before you know the details of your own specific plot of land.
By the way, model home exhibitions are never even remotely representative of the market's range of providers: they mostly feature “prefabricated” homes, and within those almost exclusively timber frame panel constructions (most providers themselves use the popular but incorrect term “timber stud construction”). Regional providers are generally rare, and those specializing in masonry construction are usually not represented at all.
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Alex_mucll schrieb:
I appreciate all input. I have already browsed the forum a bit, but I would also be grateful if you could link me to the 2-3 most important posts. Anything helps me at this stage. Are you no longer planning to build a house? No responses to your questions might mean you are not seriously pursuing it, which is why you are not receiving detailed answers. I will refrain from answering your second question in this forum.
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hanghaus202320 Sep 2024 21:49Just because of the taxes, I would lean more towards buying land. But that doesn’t seem to really interest you.
Is the plot located in MUC?
Is the plot located in MUC?
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