Dear Forum,
I have read several articles on this topic and gained some understanding, but it is still not entirely clear for our situation. I’m a complete beginner regarding this subject and now need to keep an eye on our interior contractor, who is handling everything for us (starting with the quote). Since I want to understand the services to be commissioned, I kindly ask for a plausible and, if possible, clearly explained answer with minimal technical jargon. Please excuse my perhaps very basic way of expressing myself!
Here is the background: we are building a single-family house with a ground floor, a finished attic, and an uninsulated loft on a concrete slab foundation. We want a satellite system with five connections (living room, 2 kids’ rooms, office, bedroom) as well as LAN wiring for the mentioned rooms.
First, about the LAN wiring: it was offered to install the LAN distribution panel and the router in the utility/technology room. From there, the individual rooms will presumably be wired. The offer includes cable installation, including connectors (which I understand as cabling), plus 5x BTR NETCOM outlet sockets, Cat. 7, 1x RJ45, Up0 TN E-DATmod-2Up0.
I have read a bit and understand that a network switch is needed to manage connections, but I don’t see it included in the offer. Will that be an additional cost? Are other components necessary?
Regarding Wi-Fi, will I be able to get coverage throughout the entire house (wood frame construction) from the technology room, or will I need a range extender? I have also read about access points; how do they work if I want Wi-Fi in both the living room and upstairs?
What about the telephone? No wall outlets were planned for it; it still needs to be installed somewhere. Will a normal cordless phone like a Gigaset TECT be enough, and do I only need a power outlet to connect it to the router? Or is more equipment required?
Concerning the satellite system, I was offered a 5-connection rooftop satellite system with a multiswitch, 85 cm dish / LNB / centrally located in the loft.
As an extra item, the preparation of satellite coax cables in the loft and grounding from the loft to the technology room is offered.
The price for the satellite system seems quite high. Therefore, I would prefer to have only the preparation done and then contract the remaining work separately. What do I need, or how should I arrange this? Should I have an empty conduit installed from the loft to the technology room? How is the cabling to the individual rooms done? Does it run from the technology room to the rooms or directly from the satellite dish in the loft?
Since LAN is already planned for the same rooms, is the satellite cable different (coaxial)?
Thank you very much in advance for your help and feedback. It’s incredible what challenges you have to deal with when building a house, which you never knew existed before.
Best regards,
Charly
I have read several articles on this topic and gained some understanding, but it is still not entirely clear for our situation. I’m a complete beginner regarding this subject and now need to keep an eye on our interior contractor, who is handling everything for us (starting with the quote). Since I want to understand the services to be commissioned, I kindly ask for a plausible and, if possible, clearly explained answer with minimal technical jargon. Please excuse my perhaps very basic way of expressing myself!
Here is the background: we are building a single-family house with a ground floor, a finished attic, and an uninsulated loft on a concrete slab foundation. We want a satellite system with five connections (living room, 2 kids’ rooms, office, bedroom) as well as LAN wiring for the mentioned rooms.
First, about the LAN wiring: it was offered to install the LAN distribution panel and the router in the utility/technology room. From there, the individual rooms will presumably be wired. The offer includes cable installation, including connectors (which I understand as cabling), plus 5x BTR NETCOM outlet sockets, Cat. 7, 1x RJ45, Up0 TN E-DATmod-2Up0.
I have read a bit and understand that a network switch is needed to manage connections, but I don’t see it included in the offer. Will that be an additional cost? Are other components necessary?
Regarding Wi-Fi, will I be able to get coverage throughout the entire house (wood frame construction) from the technology room, or will I need a range extender? I have also read about access points; how do they work if I want Wi-Fi in both the living room and upstairs?
What about the telephone? No wall outlets were planned for it; it still needs to be installed somewhere. Will a normal cordless phone like a Gigaset TECT be enough, and do I only need a power outlet to connect it to the router? Or is more equipment required?
Concerning the satellite system, I was offered a 5-connection rooftop satellite system with a multiswitch, 85 cm dish / LNB / centrally located in the loft.
As an extra item, the preparation of satellite coax cables in the loft and grounding from the loft to the technology room is offered.
The price for the satellite system seems quite high. Therefore, I would prefer to have only the preparation done and then contract the remaining work separately. What do I need, or how should I arrange this? Should I have an empty conduit installed from the loft to the technology room? How is the cabling to the individual rooms done? Does it run from the technology room to the rooms or directly from the satellite dish in the loft?
Since LAN is already planned for the same rooms, is the satellite cable different (coaxial)?
Thank you very much in advance for your help and feedback. It’s incredible what challenges you have to deal with when building a house, which you never knew existed before.
Best regards,
Charly
CharlyC42 schrieb:
Then I would at least need to have a double socket installed in the living room and office (that would be the requirement). In the office, I would connect the printer to the network, so the kids’ rooms would remain printer-free. I could also do this with a switch, right? That would save me the double socket, which shouldn’t be expensive anyway.
How much does such a double socket usually cost? Our interior contractor charges 37 euros net for a simple LAN socket (BTR NETCOM Cat. 7 1xRJ45 Up0). Is that a realistic price or completely overpriced?Can anyone tell me something about this? Or is it better to buy the sockets yourself and connect them yourself if necessary (terminating them) with instructions?
The issue with positioning the satellite dish is really a special case and not very simple, as it seems. Let’s see what comes of it.
CharlyC42 schrieb:
I could also use a switch if necessary, right? That would save me from needing a double socket, which shouldn’t be expensive.But that creates the need to buy a switch, which will also consume power.
CharlyC42 schrieb:
What should such a double socket cost? Our interior contractor charges 37 euros net for a simple LAN socket (BTR NETCOM Cat. 7 1xRJ45 Up0). Is that a realistic price or way too high?That’s actually quite reasonable... if all the work is included... a double socket should cost no more than 30% more.
CharlyC42 schrieb:
Can anyone advise on this? Or is it better to get the sockets yourself and, if needed, connect them yourself using instructions (termination)?Only if you understand what you’re doing (or have someone in your family who does) and have the necessary tools... otherwise, I expect it will end up costing you more.
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Peanuts7416 Mar 2017 18:29Mycraft schrieb:
However, this creates the need to get a switch, which then also consumes additional power.
This is actually quite affordable... if all the work is really included... a flush-mounted box should then cost no more than 30% extra.
Only if you understand something about this (or have someone in the family who does) and have the necessary tools... otherwise, I expect even more costs to come your way.In my case, the wires had to be screwed in; everyone has a small screwdriver.
And you can easily find the wiring configuration online.
But if the cable (from the technical room to the outlet), the outlet, and the labor cost $37, that’s really cheap.
It should be easy to find out what an outlet compatible with your electrical system costs these days with the internet.
The same applies for the cable (CAT7).
Make sure the conductor cross-section is sufficiently large—some sellers label cables as CAT7, but the wires are barely thicker than a hair (exaggerating a bit).
Cat7 cables/LAN cables are not screwed in. They are terminated using an LSA tool. You also have to be very careful because of the shielding.
You can do it yourself, but you need this type of tool, a lot of time, must work very accurately, and it is difficult to properly test the success.
You can do it yourself, but you need this type of tool, a lot of time, must work very accurately, and it is difficult to properly test the success.
DNL schrieb:
Cat7 cable/LAN cable is not screwed in.
It is terminated using an LSA tool. You also need to be very careful because of the shielding.
You can do it yourself, but you need such a tool, a lot of time, must work precisely, and it is difficult to properly test the result. I bought the set with the tester on eBay for about 19 Euro (around 21 USD), but termination still took about 4-5 hours.
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