ᐅ L-shaped concrete blocks placed directly next to the neighbor’s fence?
Created on: 27 Jul 2017 22:06
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Henrik0817123
Hello!
We have a plot of land where the neighbors on both sides have already completed their houses, including fences and so on. Since our plot slopes downward and the house will be built slightly elevated, the terrace will be significantly higher than the existing ground level. From a design perspective, it would be best to raise the area overall and support it with L-shaped retaining walls.
Is it allowed to place these retaining walls directly next to the neighbor’s fence on our property, or what regulations apply here? We are located in North Rhine-Westphalia (NRW), and I understand that rules can vary from one federal state to another.
One of the neighbors might be difficult, so before discussing our plans with them, I would like to know what is permitted.
For example, would we have to pay for the neighbor’s fence to be altered or replaced, or can we simply build the retaining walls as described right up to the fence?
Thanks in advance!
We have a plot of land where the neighbors on both sides have already completed their houses, including fences and so on. Since our plot slopes downward and the house will be built slightly elevated, the terrace will be significantly higher than the existing ground level. From a design perspective, it would be best to raise the area overall and support it with L-shaped retaining walls.
Is it allowed to place these retaining walls directly next to the neighbor’s fence on our property, or what regulations apply here? We are located in North Rhine-Westphalia (NRW), and I understand that rules can vary from one federal state to another.
One of the neighbors might be difficult, so before discussing our plans with them, I would like to know what is permitted.
For example, would we have to pay for the neighbor’s fence to be altered or replaced, or can we simply build the retaining walls as described right up to the fence?
Thanks in advance!
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Bau-Schmidt28 Jul 2017 08:02Henrik0817123 schrieb:
This is a prefabricated house provider. They really don't care much about our garden planning To be frank... neither do we.H
Henrik081712328 Jul 2017 08:44I already explained this... aligning with the neighbors means that our garden will need to drop by 1 meter (3 feet 3 inches) over 10 meters (33 feet) because the house exit is 1 meter (3 feet 3 inches) higher than the fence, and there are 10 meters (33 feet) to that fence since the property slopes downward and the house is positioned relatively high.
I can gladly create and share a sketch, which will probably help more.
I wonder who might know me from where and draw conclusions from that. So far, no one has been able to answer my question about what options are available when the neighbor’s fence is already in place and we are overall x centimeters (x inches) higher, but want to slope down to the fence or go directly up to it, and what can or must be done in such a case.
Edit: Attached is an excerpt from the site plan with elevations. The finished floor level of the house is at 62.46 meters (205 feet), we step out on the level, so the terrace is at the same height, and you can see that the neighbor’s property is about 1 meter (3 feet 3 inches) lower. We want to avoid steep slopes or embankments as much as possible (except directly in front of the fence combined with a hedge, so that it’s practically hidden) – here I’m missing good options.
From the terrace, of course, a “hard edge” and a staircase down, but we don’t want a 1 meter (3 feet 3 inches) drop there; rather, we want to raise the ground slightly so that, on the one hand, the existing soil can be reused and, on the other, we don’t have a 1 meter (3 feet 3 inches) or more difference in height between the lawn and the terrace.
I can gladly create and share a sketch, which will probably help more.
I wonder who might know me from where and draw conclusions from that. So far, no one has been able to answer my question about what options are available when the neighbor’s fence is already in place and we are overall x centimeters (x inches) higher, but want to slope down to the fence or go directly up to it, and what can or must be done in such a case.
Edit: Attached is an excerpt from the site plan with elevations. The finished floor level of the house is at 62.46 meters (205 feet), we step out on the level, so the terrace is at the same height, and you can see that the neighbor’s property is about 1 meter (3 feet 3 inches) lower. We want to avoid steep slopes or embankments as much as possible (except directly in front of the fence combined with a hedge, so that it’s practically hidden) – here I’m missing good options.
From the terrace, of course, a “hard edge” and a staircase down, but we don’t want a 1 meter (3 feet 3 inches) drop there; rather, we want to raise the ground slightly so that, on the one hand, the existing soil can be reused and, on the other, we don’t have a 1 meter (3 feet 3 inches) or more difference in height between the lawn and the terrace.
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HilfeHilfe28 Jul 2017 09:45Once again, you might not have realized it yet. But in this forum, no one will be able to give you a valid answer based on your description or drawing.
You will need to consult an architect, building authority, or landscape architect who can finalize this for you.
You will need to consult an architect, building authority, or landscape architect who can finalize this for you.
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Caspar202028 Jul 2017 09:56Just visit the building advisory service at your local building authority.
Alternatively, consult a trusted landscape contractor, unless you plan to install the L-shaped retaining walls yourself up to 1 meter (3.3 feet) high (one of those can weigh between 250 kg and 500 kg (550 lbs and 1100 lbs) depending on size and design).
By the way, if I had a neighbor who raised their garden by 1 meter (3.3 feet) above ground level on my side, they certainly wouldn’t be very popular.
Alternatively, consult a trusted landscape contractor, unless you plan to install the L-shaped retaining walls yourself up to 1 meter (3.3 feet) high (one of those can weigh between 250 kg and 500 kg (550 lbs and 1100 lbs) depending on size and design).
By the way, if I had a neighbor who raised their garden by 1 meter (3.3 feet) above ground level on my side, they certainly wouldn’t be very popular.
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HilfeHilfe28 Jul 2017 10:04Caspar2020 schrieb:
Just go to your local building department’s consultation service.
Or to the landscaping contractor you trust, unless you want to install the L-shaped concrete blocks yourself, stacked 1 meter (3 ft 3 in) high (each block weighs between 250 kg and 500 kg (550–1100 lbs), depending on size and design).
By the way, if I had a neighbor who raised their garden 1 meter (3 ft 3 in) above my property line like that, they definitely wouldn’t be ranking very high on my list of favorite neighbors.especially since it can also block the sunlight nicely
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Henrik081712328 Jul 2017 10:46Who ever said that we want the fence to be 1 meter (3.3 feet) above the neighbor’s property? It’s funny to say that no one is helping me here, and then twist my question and base a ridiculous answer on that.
That’s it for me here – what’s the point of a forum if you always have to turn to others? If everyone did that, the forum wouldn’t exist – so people who think like that about forums should just stay away – it’s the easiest solution, right!?
If a property slopes down towards the neighbor, it’s obviously clear that their land ends higher than the lower neighbor’s. This shouldn’t be so hard to understand, and the attached sketch should have made that clear to everyone.
What kind of unfriendly community is this – unbelievable.
That’s it for me here – what’s the point of a forum if you always have to turn to others? If everyone did that, the forum wouldn’t exist – so people who think like that about forums should just stay away – it’s the easiest solution, right!?
If a property slopes down towards the neighbor, it’s obviously clear that their land ends higher than the lower neighbor’s. This shouldn’t be so hard to understand, and the attached sketch should have made that clear to everyone.
What kind of unfriendly community is this – unbelievable.
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