Hello everyone,
we are currently planning an L-shaped bungalow with the following details.
--> It would be great to get some critical feedback on our current (own) design (Image 1).
This design is based on the Town & Country Perfect 111 bungalow (see Image 2).
Due to the specified roof pitch and roof shape, there will likely be an attic space – so far, I am unsure what the best use for it might be.
Thank you very much!
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 540 sqm (5800 sq ft)
Desired living area: 120 sqm (1300 sq ft)
Slope: none
Number of floors: L-shaped bungalow
District heating
Underfloor heating
Technical room and pantry combined – accessible from both sides
Roof type: gable roof (mandatory) 30-45 degrees
The gable orientation of the main gable is unfortunately predetermined (long side, see site plan, Image 3)
No basement, bungalow
Number of residents: couple currently with one child (0 years old)
Garage or carport with roof facing the entrance
A well-accessible bicycle storage would be important for us
Building site in Baden-Württemberg (BW)
Thank you very much!


we are currently planning an L-shaped bungalow with the following details.
--> It would be great to get some critical feedback on our current (own) design (Image 1).
This design is based on the Town & Country Perfect 111 bungalow (see Image 2).
Due to the specified roof pitch and roof shape, there will likely be an attic space – so far, I am unsure what the best use for it might be.
Thank you very much!
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 540 sqm (5800 sq ft)
Desired living area: 120 sqm (1300 sq ft)
Slope: none
Number of floors: L-shaped bungalow
District heating
Underfloor heating
Technical room and pantry combined – accessible from both sides
Roof type: gable roof (mandatory) 30-45 degrees
The gable orientation of the main gable is unfortunately predetermined (long side, see site plan, Image 3)
No basement, bungalow
Number of residents: couple currently with one child (0 years old)
Garage or carport with roof facing the entrance
A well-accessible bicycle storage would be important for us
Building site in Baden-Württemberg (BW)
Thank you very much!
What Yvonne means is that a usable space is created in the upper floor anyway due to the gable roof. Even with a 30° roof pitch and a knee wall height of 0 cm (0 inches):

You can get over 70 sqm (750 sq ft) at 45° and 0 cm (0 inches), even creating a small attic space.

However, I think that with 30° on an L-shaped design, it won’t work because the connection of the L will not fit properly.
The Ytong floor plan I showed is also available as a version with stairs. Here it is mirrored for your plot, with a high hip roof shown.


It would be conceivable to have only one child’s bedroom on the ground floor for now and definitely the stairs and provision for a small bathroom upstairs. Then you could initially just add a few walls upstairs and use the space as easily accessible storage. @Nordlys also made their attic area accessible by stairs for storage use.
If a second child comes along, the children can move upstairs. A guest room or office can be created downstairs. When the children eventually move out, the parents could, for example, set up two bedrooms downstairs or use one as a spacious dressing area. Upstairs there is always space for visiting children, grandchildren, etc., and, of course, storage.
You can get over 70 sqm (750 sq ft) at 45° and 0 cm (0 inches), even creating a small attic space.
However, I think that with 30° on an L-shaped design, it won’t work because the connection of the L will not fit properly.
The Ytong floor plan I showed is also available as a version with stairs. Here it is mirrored for your plot, with a high hip roof shown.
It would be conceivable to have only one child’s bedroom on the ground floor for now and definitely the stairs and provision for a small bathroom upstairs. Then you could initially just add a few walls upstairs and use the space as easily accessible storage. @Nordlys also made their attic area accessible by stairs for storage use.
If a second child comes along, the children can move upstairs. A guest room or office can be created downstairs. When the children eventually move out, the parents could, for example, set up two bedrooms downstairs or use one as a spacious dressing area. Upstairs there is always space for visiting children, grandchildren, etc., and, of course, storage.
Initially, the garage was planned to be 3 m (10 ft) wide, plus about 1.20 m (4 ft) for the hallway. Then it was changed to a carport 3.60 m (12 ft) wide instead of 4.20 m (14 ft) — so effectively narrower than before. That’s already heading in the wrong direction. It’s not wide enough to be practical. Covering the windbreak channel now won’t solve the fundamental problem.
The new floor plan is again borrowed from the same house manufacturer – without me realizing the response that this manufacturer would also be responsible for the construction. Because to build with Town & Country or with Gottlob Häberle & Sohn, you don’t need a Danwood base.
Trying to avoid a vacant, unfinished attic by building an attic that remains unfinished and empty is contradictory – like throwing the baby out with the bathwater just to avoid swapping one problem for another.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
The new floor plan is again borrowed from the same house manufacturer – without me realizing the response that this manufacturer would also be responsible for the construction. Because to build with Town & Country or with Gottlob Häberle & Sohn, you don’t need a Danwood base.
Trying to avoid a vacant, unfinished attic by building an attic that remains unfinished and empty is contradictory – like throwing the baby out with the bathwater just to avoid swapping one problem for another.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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allstar8322 Jul 2019 17:1511ant schrieb:
Originally, the garage was supposed to be 3 meters (10 feet) wide, plus about 1.20 meters (4 feet) for the walkway. Then it was changed to a carport that is 3.60 meters (12 feet) instead of 4.20 meters (14 feet) wide—so actually narrower than before. That’s already moving in the wrong direction. That narrow width is not practical. Covering the wind channel won’t solve the underlying problem.
The new floor plan is again borrowed from the same house manufacturer—and I didn’t notice any reply confirming that this company would also be the builder. Because if you want to build with Town & Country or with Gottlob Häberle & Sohn, you don’t need a Danwood base.
Trying to avoid an empty finished attic by building an attic that you leave unfinished and empty is nonsensical—as if throwing the baby out with the bathwater just to avoid going from the frying pan into the fire. 11ant schrieb:
Originally, the garage was supposed to be 3 meters (10 feet) wide, plus about 1.20 meters (4 feet) for the walkway. Then it was changed to a carport that is 3.60 meters (12 feet) instead of 4.20 meters (14 feet) wide—so actually narrower than before. That’s already moving in the wrong direction. That narrow width is not practical. Covering the wind channel won’t solve the underlying problem.
The new floor plan is again borrowed from the same house manufacturer—and I didn’t notice any reply confirming that this company would also be the builder. Because if you want to build with Town & Country or with Gottlob Häberle & Sohn, you don’t need a Danwood base.
Trying to avoid an empty finished attic by building an attic that you leave unfinished and empty is nonsensical—as if throwing the baby out with the bathwater just to avoid going from the frying pan into the fire. Thanks. I think we found a good solution for the carport with the planner today. I will share the draft once it is available. We initially used a draft just to get a rough agreement.
The attic will not remain empty. We do have a purpose for it. It is intended as storage space because we are giving up the garage and basement, and are planning “only” 120 m² (1,290 sq ft). What I often don’t understand is why people complain about an attic space, while other houses with 180+ m² (1,940+ sq ft), basement, loft, double garage, and large driveway are considered fine in terms of space consumption.
In the new draft, every room has a specific intended use—without large reserves.
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allstar8322 Jul 2019 17:17kbt09 schrieb:
What Yvonne means is that a gable roof naturally creates usable space in the upper floor. Even with a 30° roof pitch and zero knee wall height:

You can get up to over 70 sqm (750 sq ft) with a 45° pitch and zero knee wall height, which even creates a small attic space.

Although I think that with 30° in an L-shaped design you won’t manage, because the connection of the L won’t fit properly.
The Ytong floor plan I showed is also available as a version with stairs. Here it is flipped for your plot, and the roof is shown as a high hipped roof.

So it’s conceivable to currently plan only one child’s room on the ground floor, definitely include the stairs and prepare for a small bathroom upstairs. Then you can initially add just a few walls upstairs and use the rest as easily accessible storage space. @Nordlys has also made their attic accessible by stairs for storage use.
If a second child comes along, the children can move upstairs. A guest room or office can be created downstairs. When the children move out someday, the parents could set up two bedrooms downstairs or use one as a spacious dressing room. And upstairs you always have space for visiting children, grandchildren, etc. Plus storage space. Very generous of you to illustrate that graphically. Thanks for that!
We will actively plan to use the attic as storage space (and possibly as an "emergency reserve") since we are opting out of a garage and basement and planning "only" around 120 sqm (1,290 sq ft). An updated design from the architect will follow.
kbt09 schrieb:
It would be possible to have only one child’s room on the ground floor at the moment, along with the staircase and provisions for a small bathroom upstairs. Then you can initially just add a few partition walls up there and use the space as easily accessible storage. @Nordlys has also made the attic area accessible by stairs for storage use.I would follow this plan... and then you have to consider what exactly you want to store there. If it’s quite a lot, without a proper staircase it’s basically “putting it on the sidetrack,” only to realize three years later that you just stored things without really using the space. That’s why we always recommend including actual furniture layouts in all plans and always visualizing the resulting daily workflows.Similar topics