Hello everyone,
As we are currently looking into buying a kitchen, we are interested in the fairness of the asking prices. Our experience so far has been that price reductions of 25-50% off the initial prices have sometimes been offered.
To get a better idea of what constitutes a reasonable price for a kitchen, rather than focusing on "how much of a discount can I negotiate," I would like to see a list of your kitchen purchases:
Manufacturer:
Kitchen studio:
Initial price:
Final price:
I hope this discussion will help readers by sharing real experiences, leading to a fair interaction at the kitchen showroom, without either party feeling like they have been taken advantage of.
Best regards,
Sascha aus H
As we are currently looking into buying a kitchen, we are interested in the fairness of the asking prices. Our experience so far has been that price reductions of 25-50% off the initial prices have sometimes been offered.
To get a better idea of what constitutes a reasonable price for a kitchen, rather than focusing on "how much of a discount can I negotiate," I would like to see a list of your kitchen purchases:
Manufacturer:
Kitchen studio:
Initial price:
Final price:
I hope this discussion will help readers by sharing real experiences, leading to a fair interaction at the kitchen showroom, without either party feeling like they have been taken advantage of.
Best regards,
Sascha aus H
Curly schrieb:
It's not that simple. How are you supposed to know what would be reasonable? I also don’t want to pay 15,000 euros if the kitchen shouldn’t cost more than 10,000 euros. But it is. Reasonable is what you are willing to pay, what it is worth to YOU. If you carefully consider beforehand: exactly what do I want, how much am I willing to pay for it, then it’s quite straightforward.
It’s exactly the same when buying a car, except you can research prices beforehand instead of finding out only at the store.
77.willo schrieb:
But it is. What matters is what you are willing to pay and what it is worth to YOU. If you think about exactly that beforehand: what do I really want, how much am I willing to pay, then it’s quite simple.
It’s exactly the same with buying a car, except you can look up prices in advance instead of only finding out in the shop.I completely agree with you!
In today’s bargain-hunting world, what counts is what you save, not what the item is truly worth. We all stand against child labor, reject cheap imports, and wouldn’t work for minimum wage ourselves.
A special kitchen appliance can now cost €1400 (about $1500). For something that means you no longer cook tasty meals yourself but leave it to a machine to prepare baby- and senior-friendly food without many spices or refinement, that’s quite a steep price.
And that doesn’t even include a high-end fitted kitchen.
This was just a small detour into the world of prices that are no longer easy to justify.
Therefore, it’s fair to consider how much you value your kitchen and to start from there with your ideas about appliances and design.
Well, maybe you end up paying $500 or $1000 more than another supplier—but in doing so, you might be supporting a job in the kitchen manufacturing industry?!
Best regards,
Yvonne
Sorry, but that’s not the point.
Of course, it’s fine that kitchen studios make a profit...
Of course, it’s fine that the kitchen isn’t made in East Asia...
Of course, it’s fine if people earn more than minimum wage...
The issue is simply the lack of transparency: The example of buying a car is quite fitting here (and applies to almost all other industries nowadays): You can know the exact value quite precisely through online price platforms, etc. Walking into a car dealership and paying a hugely overpriced price for a car... that hardly happens anymore. The market is transparent, incredibly transparent. The same goes for electronics and similar products.
With kitchens, it’s not the case: the exact same kitchen (same manufacturer, same appliances, everything identical) can cost between €10,000 and €30,000 (approximately $11,000 and $33,000). This is like a bazaar, and highly unusual for our cultural context here; it does not correspond at all to the year 2017... But this is exactly how the kitchen industry wants it.
If I just go to one kitchen store and don’t compare, I could easily pay a 200% markup on the “actual” value. If I do the same at Saturn or MediaMarkt (major electronics retailers), such a thing is almost impossible (of course, online is usually a bit cheaper, but that’s not the point here). And why is this? Because many kitchen studios try to trick customers.
Of course, it’s fine that kitchen studios make a profit...
Of course, it’s fine that the kitchen isn’t made in East Asia...
Of course, it’s fine if people earn more than minimum wage...
The issue is simply the lack of transparency: The example of buying a car is quite fitting here (and applies to almost all other industries nowadays): You can know the exact value quite precisely through online price platforms, etc. Walking into a car dealership and paying a hugely overpriced price for a car... that hardly happens anymore. The market is transparent, incredibly transparent. The same goes for electronics and similar products.
With kitchens, it’s not the case: the exact same kitchen (same manufacturer, same appliances, everything identical) can cost between €10,000 and €30,000 (approximately $11,000 and $33,000). This is like a bazaar, and highly unusual for our cultural context here; it does not correspond at all to the year 2017... But this is exactly how the kitchen industry wants it.
If I just go to one kitchen store and don’t compare, I could easily pay a 200% markup on the “actual” value. If I do the same at Saturn or MediaMarkt (major electronics retailers), such a thing is almost impossible (of course, online is usually a bit cheaper, but that’s not the point here). And why is this? Because many kitchen studios try to trick customers.
Tego12 schrieb:
That’s like a market bazaar, and that is highly untypical for our cultural area and does not correspond at all to the year 2017 But it is because of us customers, who have not yet realized that the advertised prices are not fixed.
It is explicitly allowed to negotiate the price, and it works, even in the bargain-driven market.
HERR_bau schrieb:
Looking for someone to blame doesn’t really help now. I think the original poster has received some helpful comments here. The rest is nonsense and a discussion that leads nowhere...
No offense :-OWhat kind of response is that? On one hand, no one is looking for someone to blame, and on the other hand, the OP actually wanted a discussion.