Bought a house, estimated the renovation budget plus 10-15% for inevitable extras, and we set aside 5000 EUR for the kitchen!!!!
That’s how it started... at first, I was in a bit of shock, but we still had time. First step: remove all the walls for a new layout—I need space...
Let’s start with the (according to the agent) move-in ready property. The small kitchen, just under 8 square meters (about 86 square feet), had its 1970s pass-through removed. The wall including the kitchen door is gone! The wall next to the cellar stairs is gone too! Actually, the entire slanted wall, nearly 7 meters (23 feet) high, removed completely...
The window had to go as well since we needed a different working height than the standard 90 cm (35 inches). New screed installed, we switched to underfloor heating, all electrical wiring and water pipes are new.
After almost six months, the realization slowly sank in: the kitchen budget will not exceed 5000 EUR, so we had to look for a used kitchen... something special, but very cheap.
The search criteria: within a 100 km (62 miles) radius, up to 1000 EUR, because I still want new appliances.
That’s how it started... at first, I was in a bit of shock, but we still had time. First step: remove all the walls for a new layout—I need space...
Let’s start with the (according to the agent) move-in ready property. The small kitchen, just under 8 square meters (about 86 square feet), had its 1970s pass-through removed. The wall including the kitchen door is gone! The wall next to the cellar stairs is gone too! Actually, the entire slanted wall, nearly 7 meters (23 feet) high, removed completely...
The window had to go as well since we needed a different working height than the standard 90 cm (35 inches). New screed installed, we switched to underfloor heating, all electrical wiring and water pipes are new.
After almost six months, the realization slowly sank in: the kitchen budget will not exceed 5000 EUR, so we had to look for a used kitchen... something special, but very cheap.
The search criteria: within a 100 km (62 miles) radius, up to 1000 EUR, because I still want new appliances.
Hausi20 schrieb:
I don't want to have to walk halfway through the house first.That’s not what @ivenh0 is talking about at all. The front looks good, nicely chosen. But there should be a bit more space between the stove and the sink. Just because you’re used to something that isn’t ideal doesn’t mean you have to carry it over to your new, expensive kitchen.
By the way, I also spontaneously mentioned the darkness.
That was the second thing I noticed. At first, I thought: finally someone who’s breaking up their not-so-large island countertop with the cooktop, until I looked behind it. I would also leave a bit more space between the cooktop and the sink. Although, if my eyes don’t deceive me, that’s a sink with a draining board, right? What kind of countertop is planned? If it’s natural stone, ceramic, or similar (i.e., resistant to moisture and heat), then I would choose a plain sink WITHOUT a draining board. You usually don’t need that when you have a dishwasher, and it would free up more workspace between the sink and cooktop.
Overall, the floor plan would be interesting to see – from what I guess, I would probably place the tall cabinets where the sink and cooktop currently are, and put a kitchen run where the tall cabinets are now, rotating the island by 90°, so it runs parallel to that kitchen run. But that’s pure speculation without a floor plan.
Overall, the floor plan would be interesting to see – from what I guess, I would probably place the tall cabinets where the sink and cooktop currently are, and put a kitchen run where the tall cabinets are now, rotating the island by 90°, so it runs parallel to that kitchen run. But that’s pure speculation without a floor plan.
@Climbee I actually like the idea of placing tall cabinets along the back wall. However, the wall where the tall cabinets are currently located is about 2 meters (6.6 feet) wide. If a run with the cooktop and sink were installed there, they would end up right next to each other since that run is already 180 cm (71 inches) long. The prep island is meant to stay as is, and the stove and sink definitely need to be on the run. At the moment, there is just under 60 cm (24 inches) of space between them. Or was your idea to place three tall cabinets along the back wall plus have the rest as a run? So, a small run straight ahead and another small one to the left?
60cm (24 inches) between tall cabinets and island? That’s really tight... A good distance is 110 - 130cm (43 - 51 inches).
Do you still have the option to relocate the connections accordingly?
And, as mentioned, with the right countertop, you don’t need a 180cm (71 inches) sink; a single basin for a 60cm (24 inches) base cabinet is sufficient.
My comments were also quite vague since I don’t know the floor plan.
Do you still have the option to relocate the connections accordingly?
And, as mentioned, with the right countertop, you don’t need a 180cm (71 inches) sink; a single basin for a 60cm (24 inches) base cabinet is sufficient.
My comments were also quite vague since I don’t know the floor plan.
The nearly 60 cm (24 inches) refers to the current distance between the cooktop and the sink. See the text.
A 180 cm (71 inches) sink? That was never mentioned. The cooktop plus sink plus draining board together amount to about 180 cm (71 inches), referring to the fact that a 200 cm (79 inches) long run on the left side of the kitchen makes little sense if it is supposed to include the sink, stove, etc. If you were to place three tall cabinets facing the run and have a separate run on the left, you would end up with two separate small kitchen runs, which, in my opinion, do not provide any added value.
A 180 cm (71 inches) sink? That was never mentioned. The cooktop plus sink plus draining board together amount to about 180 cm (71 inches), referring to the fact that a 200 cm (79 inches) long run on the left side of the kitchen makes little sense if it is supposed to include the sink, stove, etc. If you were to place three tall cabinets facing the run and have a separate run on the left, you would end up with two separate small kitchen runs, which, in my opinion, do not provide any added value.
Still: skip the drainboard – no one with a dishwasher really needs it. You don’t have that much counter space, so I wouldn’t give up any for a drainboard or drying area.
Better to have a small extra sink on the island. We have that, and it’s fantastic. You use the faucet much more often than the cooktop.
Better to have a small extra sink on the island. We have that, and it’s fantastic. You use the faucet much more often than the cooktop.
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