Bought a house, estimated the renovation budget plus 10-15% for inevitable extras, and we set aside 5000 EUR for the kitchen!!!!
That’s how it started... at first, I was in a bit of shock, but we still had time. First step: remove all the walls for a new layout—I need space...
Let’s start with the (according to the agent) move-in ready property. The small kitchen, just under 8 square meters (about 86 square feet), had its 1970s pass-through removed. The wall including the kitchen door is gone! The wall next to the cellar stairs is gone too! Actually, the entire slanted wall, nearly 7 meters (23 feet) high, removed completely...
The window had to go as well since we needed a different working height than the standard 90 cm (35 inches). New screed installed, we switched to underfloor heating, all electrical wiring and water pipes are new.
After almost six months, the realization slowly sank in: the kitchen budget will not exceed 5000 EUR, so we had to look for a used kitchen... something special, but very cheap.
The search criteria: within a 100 km (62 miles) radius, up to 1000 EUR, because I still want new appliances.








That’s how it started... at first, I was in a bit of shock, but we still had time. First step: remove all the walls for a new layout—I need space...
Let’s start with the (according to the agent) move-in ready property. The small kitchen, just under 8 square meters (about 86 square feet), had its 1970s pass-through removed. The wall including the kitchen door is gone! The wall next to the cellar stairs is gone too! Actually, the entire slanted wall, nearly 7 meters (23 feet) high, removed completely...
The window had to go as well since we needed a different working height than the standard 90 cm (35 inches). New screed installed, we switched to underfloor heating, all electrical wiring and water pipes are new.
After almost six months, the realization slowly sank in: the kitchen budget will not exceed 5000 EUR, so we had to look for a used kitchen... something special, but very cheap.
The search criteria: within a 100 km (62 miles) radius, up to 1000 EUR, because I still want new appliances.
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chand198628 Mar 2019 21:04ypg schrieb:
Don’t forget what the explanation is based on: the use of several sockets at the same time. Examples. I don’t see the logic or causality in your answers. But you would have to deliberately overlook that.
A lot of sockets because of many devices. Some of these devices, in my opinion, unnecessary. Causality: Many devices require many sockets. Logical consequence: Fewer devices require fewer sockets. Replacing an electric kettle with an induction-compatible pot frees up one socket. But yes, environmentally it would make sense to keep using the kettle if it’s already there.
ypg schrieb:
Electric kettle, coffee machine, phone charger, and another kitchen appliance, leaving two sockets for occasional devices like a toaster or food processor. The same goes for the counter: hand blender, deep fryer, rice cooker You see, that’s what I mean. For me, the electric kettle, coffee machine, deep fryer, and toaster are unnecessary, therefore space-wasters, which means unnecessary sockets are reserved for them. Think about the space and thus the cost that causes... and yet I still regularly toast, fry, and make coffee.
Filling the countertop and cabinets with all these things just doesn’t make any sense to me. But well, everyone’s different, and that’s how it should be.
I just can’t get past the logic of being “surprised” about one special appliance while having five others (each requiring its own socket). Where’s the sense in that?
chand1986 schrieb:
and I still regularly toast, fry, and make coffee.Without electricity?
Or do you switch plugs?
By the way, I’m generally not a fan of unnecessary appliances. But since I’m familiar with them, I can respond neutrally to questions like “why so many power outlets.”
Just because I bought an electric hotplate for those reasons doesn’t mean I want to cook my soup with firewood.
That’s all on that... I also prefer to avoid endless debates, so I’m either moving on now or waiting for a new topic.
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chand198628 Mar 2019 21:17Toasting and frying on the stove, heating water for coffee on the stove, then using a pour-over filter, or for larger groups, using the TM. Overall, you just need one power outlet next to the stove.
The comment about open flame was meant as irony. But many kitchen appliances don’t perform tasks faster or better than having no appliances at all, or a multifunctional tool. However, they do take up space.
To be honest: if my TM ever breaks down, I’ll survive. But without my knives, my good cutting board, and my favorite frying pan, I’m immediately at a loss. Everything else is just additional equipment.
The comment about open flame was meant as irony. But many kitchen appliances don’t perform tasks faster or better than having no appliances at all, or a multifunctional tool. However, they do take up space.
To be honest: if my TM ever breaks down, I’ll survive. But without my knives, my good cutting board, and my favorite frying pan, I’m immediately at a loss. Everything else is just additional equipment.
chand1986 schrieb:
To be honest: If my food processor ever breaks down, I’ll survive. But without my knives, my good cutting board, and my favorite frying pan, I’m immediately lost. Everything else is just extras.No one in this thread has said anything about your great appliance (at least I haven’t read that), yet you feel the need to defend it out of nowhere. Is there an issue? Or did I miss something?
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