Hello everyone,
Until now, I’ve mostly followed the topics here quietly, but I thought I might ask for your experiences this time 🙂
We are building with Schwörerhaus, and our current task is to plan our kitchen so that we also get the layout for the utility connections. We thought we’d get three quotes, compare them, and then decide. But it’s not as easy as we thought.
So far, we have visited two kitchen showrooms. Both told us they only plan and sell the kitchen with the appliances included, and during the consultation, we could only specify which functions are important to us for the appliances.
After all the planning, we got to see a finished rendering on-site and were given a price. However, we were not allowed to take any pictures or printed plans of the final kitchen. Also, no exact model numbers or similar details about the appliances were provided. We were told the brand, but a supplier usually offers more than one appliance of a brand.
This all seems quite unprofessional to me. The advisors’ argument was each time that they put in the effort, and then I might take the plan and get it done somewhere else. In the end, I determined the layout, number of cabinets, etc., myself at both places—and naturally chose the same for each to compare.
But without the details, I can hardly compare. In the end, I don’t really know which appliances are included. If company 1 says it costs 25,000 EUR and company 2 says 15,000 EUR, I have no way of understanding what causes the difference. Both kitchens are roughly identical in layout and the number of cabinets, so it must be the appliances? It would be nice to have that listed so I could maybe choose cheaper appliances in one kitchen or more expensive ones in the other if something is “missing” or however.
What are your experiences here? Does anyone perhaps know a good kitchen studio in Berlin/Brandenburg where you can get everything listed clearly?
I’m a bit unsure right now... I wouldn’t want to pay such an amount “just like that” without knowing exactly what I am paying for in the end.
Thanks in advance for your insights.
Best regards,
ElaVogel
Until now, I’ve mostly followed the topics here quietly, but I thought I might ask for your experiences this time 🙂
We are building with Schwörerhaus, and our current task is to plan our kitchen so that we also get the layout for the utility connections. We thought we’d get three quotes, compare them, and then decide. But it’s not as easy as we thought.
So far, we have visited two kitchen showrooms. Both told us they only plan and sell the kitchen with the appliances included, and during the consultation, we could only specify which functions are important to us for the appliances.
After all the planning, we got to see a finished rendering on-site and were given a price. However, we were not allowed to take any pictures or printed plans of the final kitchen. Also, no exact model numbers or similar details about the appliances were provided. We were told the brand, but a supplier usually offers more than one appliance of a brand.
This all seems quite unprofessional to me. The advisors’ argument was each time that they put in the effort, and then I might take the plan and get it done somewhere else. In the end, I determined the layout, number of cabinets, etc., myself at both places—and naturally chose the same for each to compare.
But without the details, I can hardly compare. In the end, I don’t really know which appliances are included. If company 1 says it costs 25,000 EUR and company 2 says 15,000 EUR, I have no way of understanding what causes the difference. Both kitchens are roughly identical in layout and the number of cabinets, so it must be the appliances? It would be nice to have that listed so I could maybe choose cheaper appliances in one kitchen or more expensive ones in the other if something is “missing” or however.
What are your experiences here? Does anyone perhaps know a good kitchen studio in Berlin/Brandenburg where you can get everything listed clearly?
I’m a bit unsure right now... I wouldn’t want to pay such an amount “just like that” without knowing exactly what I am paying for in the end.
Thanks in advance for your insights.
Best regards,
ElaVogel
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Traumfaenger16 Jun 2022 22:35Construbo schrieb:
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In the end, we went to a carpenter who offered us a bit less product, but provided extremely professional material advice. The quote clearly reflects the current market price of the wood and transparently shows how the price would change if wood becomes more expensive or cheaper.That’s what we did after several frustrating visits to kitchen showrooms. Top carpenter, top quality, we are still very, very happy with that decision. With so much arrogance, kitchen showrooms can just deal with it—simply ignore them. For almost 50,000 EUR, you can expect not to be sold a surprise package and that your personal wishes are truly considered. And before signing such a contract, I need to know what I’m getting for my money. If they find enough fools to buy a pig in a poke, well, good for them.Traumfaenger schrieb:
And before I sign such a contract, I need to know what I am getting for my money.You can read the contract beforehand, after all... it contains everything. From A to Z and every E number 😎
Traumfaenger schrieb:
Top cabinetmaker ... For just under 50,000 EUR (around 54,000 USD) 50K sounds like a lot to me. Of course, it depends on the size and so on. But I wonder if, in the end, the cabinetmaker might be somewhat more expensive with comparable equipment?
Traumfaenger schrieb:
That's how we proceeded after several frustrating visits to kitchen showrooms as well. What did you find so frustrating? Missing information about appliances as well?
ypg schrieb:
You can read the contract beforehand... everything is included. From A to Z and every E number 😎Sure, it's all stated in the contract, but do you actually get to take the contract home to read it carefully and verify everything, or is it once again a case of "You have to sign here and now to get the price"?ypg schrieb:
You can read the contract beforehand... everything is included. From A to Z and every E number 😎 So, should I schedule two appointments? One to read it carefully, with someone watching over, then sleep on it overnight, and then a second one to sign? Especially if you’ve basically already agreed? I somehow don’t believe that.
Musketier schrieb:
Of course it’s stated in the contract, but do you actually get the contract sent home so you can read and review everything calmly, or is it one of those “You have to sign here and now to lock in the price” situations? Oh sorry,… I forgot that everyone in the construction industry, including kitchen salespeople, must be born pressurers and are basically “criminals.” All pigs, those guys :p
Who’s to blame? Always the industry. Or the others 😉
Sometimes I think things get a bit too theatrical here.
Ysop*** schrieb:
So shall I arrange two appointments? One to calmly read through everything, with someone watching over,