ᐅ Kitchen Island and Dining Table – Which Layout Should You Choose?
Created on: 13 Oct 2016 11:47
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DragonyxXL
After extensive discussions, we have ultimately decided against an L-shaped kitchen layout. This now leaves us with two different options for the kitchen island. What are your thoughts on these two variants? What advantages and disadvantages do you see for each?
Details:
- No door between the hallway and the room, only a 2m (6.5 ft) wide passage with a lintel
- Dining table size: small variant 2m (6.5 ft), medium variant 3m (10 ft), long variant 4.5-5m (15-16.5 ft)
- Distance between the kitchen run and the island: 0.95m (3 ft)
- The window on the right side of the plan should not be moved; patio doors could be shifted if absolutely necessary
- Kitchen run layout from top to bottom: oven, stove, dishwasher, sink, freezer, refrigerator
Why choose a kitchen island at all?
1. More countertop workspace
2. Additional storage is needed
3. At least a partial separation between the kitchen and the rest of the room
Variant 1 – island at the top of the plan:
- The dining table is closer to the windows, which might be more pleasant
- The main workspace is far from the refrigerator, sink, and trash bin, so it might not be used as intended
- The first thing you see from the hallway is the kitchen island (which doesn’t feel very welcoming to me)
- Good amount of open space when entering the room
- Table and chairs partially block the patio doors, making opening and passing through inconvenient
Variant 3 – island at the bottom of the plan:
- The dining table seems more accessible, also due to the permanent opening to the hallway
- The dining table is about 2.5m (8 ft) away from the patio doors
- Opportunity to set up a very long table for celebrations
Details:
- No door between the hallway and the room, only a 2m (6.5 ft) wide passage with a lintel
- Dining table size: small variant 2m (6.5 ft), medium variant 3m (10 ft), long variant 4.5-5m (15-16.5 ft)
- Distance between the kitchen run and the island: 0.95m (3 ft)
- The window on the right side of the plan should not be moved; patio doors could be shifted if absolutely necessary
- Kitchen run layout from top to bottom: oven, stove, dishwasher, sink, freezer, refrigerator
Why choose a kitchen island at all?
1. More countertop workspace
2. Additional storage is needed
3. At least a partial separation between the kitchen and the rest of the room
Variant 1 – island at the top of the plan:
- The dining table is closer to the windows, which might be more pleasant
- The main workspace is far from the refrigerator, sink, and trash bin, so it might not be used as intended
- The first thing you see from the hallway is the kitchen island (which doesn’t feel very welcoming to me)
- Good amount of open space when entering the room
- Table and chairs partially block the patio doors, making opening and passing through inconvenient
Variant 3 – island at the bottom of the plan:
- The dining table seems more accessible, also due to the permanent opening to the hallway
- The dining table is about 2.5m (8 ft) away from the patio doors
- Opportunity to set up a very long table for celebrations
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DragonyxXL13 Oct 2016 15:47kbt09 schrieb:
Regarding the sink… you don’t wash everything by hand, only a few items now and then, so you get used to the drainer being oriented differently.Our requests are not being considered with this:
1. A certain visual and perceived separation between kitchen and living area
2. Not having to be seated entirely within the kitchen
3. Placing dishes to the left side
4. Keeping the kitchen window in its current position
Instead, we have gained plenty of space for moving around, which we definitely did not ask for.
kbt09 schrieb:
…I already mentioned [URL='https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Grundriss-160m-Bungalow.13566/page-4#post-129511']that 850 cm (28 feet) width is a rather inconvenient dimensionYet the room has this dimension and it cannot be changed.
ypg schrieb:
That’s why I’m asking if there are possibilities we don’t know about without having the floor plan.Unfortunately no, but there is always the option to furnish more economically.D
DragonyxXL13 Oct 2016 15:49Bamue89 schrieb:
Or rather, the passage position does not allow for a comfortable arrangement of the dining table. Is this an urban villa? Regards The problem is not entirely clear to me. Either we are sitting at the table eating, so that no one has to constantly pass through, or the chairs are pushed in and we can move around everywhere.
It is not an urban villa, as matte1987 pointed out.
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DragonyxXL13 Oct 2016 16:09The external dimensions had to be finalized quickly at that time in order to avoid jeopardizing the further planning process. Today, it can be said with confidence that taking an extra two weeks back then would have been possible without any issues.
DragonyxXL schrieb:
No. The exterior dimensions had to be finalized quickly back then to avoid jeopardizing the further planning process. Today, one can confidently say that taking two more weeks at the time would have been possible.DragonyxXL schrieb:
Our wishes were definitely not taken into account:
1. A certain visual and perceived separation between kitchen and living area
2. Not having to sit entirely in the kitchen
3. Placing the dishes to the left side
4. Not moving the kitchen window
On the other hand, we gained plenty of space for moving around, which we certainly did not want.
]We are not the wish fulfillers either.
You could simply have shown more respect for our concerns. That wouldn’t have taken two weeks.
Well, ifs and buts.
But basically, this discussion is just an extension of the previous one; in my opinion, nothing changes about the fact that 8.4 meters (27.6 feet) doesn’t fit your/your plans. Widening it as you suggested back then wouldn’t have helped either, since a kitchen doesn’t become more functional by making it longer.
What use is it to openly present the problems early on, only for you as the original poster to dismiss them as insignificant?
Think small: a small table for the family; when guests come, you can go out to eat or get an adjustable-height coffee table.
Or put differently: what’s already built, and what could be integrated from this open hallway into the living area? Although: the position of the wastewater outlet is probably already fixed?
No problem at all. It just has to be to your liking. I meant that the room is accessed from the center, and the table will inevitably be positioned along that line of sight in every layout option. Or am I wrong? I’ll need to take a closer look at the floor plan on the computer later. Best regards
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