ᐅ Kitchen Appliances – Stove, Oven, Microwave, and Everything You Need!
Created on: 28 Sep 2018 11:06
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So, I'm starting a new topic here to avoid overloading the house pictures thread.
I find the sliding doors for ovens quite interesting – but do they really offer any added value? I was also surprised to read that ovens now seem to be adopting a feature I dislike in microwaves: instead of setting temperature and possibly time, you input the "dimensions" of the food?! What is that supposed to achieve?! Personally, I think it’s terrible.
I find the sliding doors for ovens quite interesting – but do they really offer any added value? I was also surprised to read that ovens now seem to be adopting a feature I dislike in microwaves: instead of setting temperature and possibly time, you input the "dimensions" of the food?! What is that supposed to achieve?! Personally, I think it’s terrible.
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chand198628 Sep 2018 22:09I am somewhat surprised by the strong rejection of something that is essentially just a kitchen tool.
Of course, you can do everything the TM does by other means. Usually cheaper, too.
For the kitchen, what you really need is some storage space, a cutting board, a good knife, a frying pan, a pot, and a heat source. That’s it.
But when it comes to cooking several things simultaneously, a device that can stir, puree, and heat precisely at the same time is like having a second person in the kitchen.
Whether you actually need it depends on how you use it. Replacing a €1200 device with four separate ones at €200 each might seem cheaper, but I think that’s totally unreasonable despite the price advantage. I want to work efficiently above all else.
Sure, it was hyped by marketing. That doesn’t automatically make it useless, only that the price is unnecessarily high. I would buy a non-hyped device for less money that performs just as well. Unfortunately, that doesn’t exist—at least not for my use case.
And I mean that seriously: I tried to prevent buying it, was overruled, and ended up completely caught by how useful it is. So calling me a marketing victim is difficult.
(By the way, as a chemist, I am the typical user for devices that stir continuously, deliver precise temperatures, and do a bit more. It’s proven lab technology in a home-friendly format.)
Of course, you can do everything the TM does by other means. Usually cheaper, too.
For the kitchen, what you really need is some storage space, a cutting board, a good knife, a frying pan, a pot, and a heat source. That’s it.
But when it comes to cooking several things simultaneously, a device that can stir, puree, and heat precisely at the same time is like having a second person in the kitchen.
Whether you actually need it depends on how you use it. Replacing a €1200 device with four separate ones at €200 each might seem cheaper, but I think that’s totally unreasonable despite the price advantage. I want to work efficiently above all else.
Sure, it was hyped by marketing. That doesn’t automatically make it useless, only that the price is unnecessarily high. I would buy a non-hyped device for less money that performs just as well. Unfortunately, that doesn’t exist—at least not for my use case.
And I mean that seriously: I tried to prevent buying it, was overruled, and ended up completely caught by how useful it is. So calling me a marketing victim is difficult.
(By the way, as a chemist, I am the typical user for devices that stir continuously, deliver precise temperatures, and do a bit more. It’s proven lab technology in a home-friendly format.)
Zaba12 schrieb:
Believe me – it turned out like a cheesecake. Just Google it. It was baked/steamed in this steam attachment.
If you were even a little bit correct, I would overlook the capital letters. But not like this.Oh... yes... the steam insert... BUT THAT IS NOT BAKING...
though this is not meant as a comment on steaming.
chand1986 schrieb:
But if you want to cook several things at the same time, a device that can stir, puree, and heat precisely is like having a second person in the kitchen.It doesn’t actually cook... it can do a few steps. But usually not simultaneously. In recipes, the steps are coordinated, but each involves compromises. Have you ever seen it chop meat? It’s really not up to standard. The fibers make it tough, that’s inevitable, and in the end you’ll be eating unidentifiable chunks of meat.
For pureeing, a €10 device from Lidl is enough, and the same goes for blending.
The only thing it probably does well is precise heating... but spending over 1300 on it is not justified.
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chand198628 Sep 2018 22:42Who the hell makes ground meat in the TM??
I admit: you need to know what you're doing to make full use of it. I do make liver sausage in it, though. Never ground meat or similar.
The device doesn’t give you skills; you need those beforehand. If someone loses the ability to chop onions because of the TM, they never really knew how in the first place, it's that simple.
And yes: not at the same time. Still, it’s only ONE device with which I save at least a blender, a bain-marie, a coffee maker, a steamer, a dough kneading machine, about 50% of an ice cream maker, and quite often simply some use of pots and pans. Is it worth 1200€ (about $1300)? Easily for me. I don’t have the rest, don’t have to store it, don’t have to maintain it, can’t break it.
How was it with Nordlys? “If it’s not there, it’s not possible”? (loosely from memory)
I admit: you need to know what you're doing to make full use of it. I do make liver sausage in it, though. Never ground meat or similar.
The device doesn’t give you skills; you need those beforehand. If someone loses the ability to chop onions because of the TM, they never really knew how in the first place, it's that simple.
And yes: not at the same time. Still, it’s only ONE device with which I save at least a blender, a bain-marie, a coffee maker, a steamer, a dough kneading machine, about 50% of an ice cream maker, and quite often simply some use of pots and pans. Is it worth 1200€ (about $1300)? Easily for me. I don’t have the rest, don’t have to store it, don’t have to maintain it, can’t break it.
How was it with Nordlys? “If it’s not there, it’s not possible”? (loosely from memory)
I know this from people I know personally—there’s always complaints about the high price, but then they hold an iPhone costing the same amount that doesn’t do much, while any basic smartphone is now better. But anyway.
With the TM, I can make very tender roulades, sauce, and potatoes at the same time. Nothing burns, and I can simply do something else for two hours. Also asparagus with hollandaise sauce, or fish with vegetables. Or yeast dough at a controlled temperature, which turns out very fluffy. Rice pudding without burning, soups all in one go.
Roast pork or desserts like steamed dumplings also turn out perfect.
We mill our flour with it, nuts, and so on, and prepare dough for bread.
If you consider the number of kitchen appliances it replaces altogether and the quality of the machine, I find the price reasonable.
It’s certainly possible to manage without it, but for a kitchen appliance, it’s excellent, and I don’t know a single dissatisfied owner.
With the TM, I can make very tender roulades, sauce, and potatoes at the same time. Nothing burns, and I can simply do something else for two hours. Also asparagus with hollandaise sauce, or fish with vegetables. Or yeast dough at a controlled temperature, which turns out very fluffy. Rice pudding without burning, soups all in one go.
Roast pork or desserts like steamed dumplings also turn out perfect.
We mill our flour with it, nuts, and so on, and prepare dough for bread.
If you consider the number of kitchen appliances it replaces altogether and the quality of the machine, I find the price reasonable.
It’s certainly possible to manage without it, but for a kitchen appliance, it’s excellent, and I don’t know a single dissatisfied owner.
I don’t want to discourage anyone from using the device, but these are the points I mentioned earlier. I will also praise the device again at the end.
No, not ground meat (it might do that better) — pork tenderloin stew, a recipe from TM... a friend prepared it... and I was shocked by what the device does to the meat.
Yes, but that’s the problem with today’s “young” women or even men... who want to follow and can keep up with the hype of status.
Well, you can’t quite replace everything, because depending on your choice, you let the TM do some tasks, but still need other small appliances for parallel use.
Otherwise, it’s not really a time saver; it just stands nearby to get the device ready for the next dish.
With the steamer... which is just a side feature of the TM.
But respect if you manage that well. I’ve heard many negative examples about the steamer, and experienced some myself.
For hollandaise, I would also like to have such a device, but it’s too expensive just for that. However, there is a small appliance for around €60 that’s like a mini pressure cooker from WMF, which would probably do the job.
If you tend to burn rice pudding, it could actually be an alternative.
For soups, I’m not sure what the streamlined process would be otherwise. You still have to chop ingredients for the TM.
However, you also need the other devices to work in parallel. When I make hollandaise, the TM is occupied... until the plating.
chand1986 schrieb:
Who the heck makes ground meat in the TM??
No, not ground meat (it might do that better) — pork tenderloin stew, a recipe from TM... a friend prepared it... and I was shocked by what the device does to the meat.
chand1986 schrieb:
If you lose the skill of chopping onions because of TM, you never really had it, plain and simple.
Yes, but that’s the problem with today’s “young” women or even men... who want to follow and can keep up with the hype of status.
chand1986 schrieb:
Still, it’s just ONE device that at least replaces a blender, bain-marie, coffee maker, steamer, dough kneader, about 50% an ice cream maker, and quite often the occasional use of pots and pans. Is it worth €1200?
Well, you can’t quite replace everything, because depending on your choice, you let the TM do some tasks, but still need other small appliances for parallel use.
Otherwise, it’s not really a time saver; it just stands nearby to get the device ready for the next dish.
Bookstar schrieb:
With the TM, I make very tender roulades, sauce, and potatoes all at once.
With the steamer... which is just a side feature of the TM.
But respect if you manage that well. I’ve heard many negative examples about the steamer, and experienced some myself.
Bookstar schrieb:
Hollandaise. Or fish with vegetables. Or yeast dough with temperature control, which turns out very fluffy.
For hollandaise, I would also like to have such a device, but it’s too expensive just for that. However, there is a small appliance for around €60 that’s like a mini pressure cooker from WMF, which would probably do the job.
Bookstar schrieb:
But also rice pudding without burning, soups all in one step.
If you tend to burn rice pudding, it could actually be an alternative.
For soups, I’m not sure what the streamlined process would be otherwise. You still have to chop ingredients for the TM.
Bookstar schrieb:
We grind our flour with it, nuts, etc., prepare dough for bread.
It’s good for grinding and probably indispensable for large quantities. It’s said to have solid and robust mechanics.
I’ve been grinding my flour for a year with a Nutribullet... but it can’t handle much volume.
When you consider how many kitchen appliances it replaces overall and the quality of the machine, I find the price fair.
However, you also need the other devices to work in parallel. When I make hollandaise, the TM is occupied... until the plating.
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