ᐅ Is laminated safety glass (LSG) required for floor-to-ceiling windows on the upper floor?

Created on: 22 Aug 2022 23:57
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JaiBee07
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JaiBee07
22 Aug 2022 23:57
Hello everyone,

I need to finalize the windows now to place the order. I’m wondering whether laminated safety glass (VSG) is mandatory for floor-to-ceiling windows on the first floor (1st storey) or not. I've found different information online; the DIN 18008 standard seems to suggest something along those lines, but my structural engineer says that’s not quite correct.

For burglary protection on the ground floor, all windows have RC2 security glazing with laminated safety glass (VSG), but I was planning to skip this on the upper floor for cost reasons.
I’m still undecided about the children’s room due to safety concerns. However, in the other rooms, I can’t really imagine someone hitting the glass hard enough to break all three panes and fall through.

By the way, there will be external bars installed on the windows as fall protection, if that’s relevant.

Does anyone here know the regulations regarding this?
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hanse987
23 Aug 2022 00:05
If you’re going to install a grid anyway, you already have your fall protection in front of the window.
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JaiBee07
23 Aug 2022 08:57
hanse987 schrieb:

If you are installing a railing anyway, then you already have your fall protection.
Yes, I basically agree. And since the windows can be fully opened, I definitely need fall protection, even if I were to use laminated safety glass (LSG). So there are no safety requirements related to LSG in this case, correct?
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xMisterDx
24 Aug 2022 21:51
The police recommend RC2 at the lower level and at least RC1 above... if windows above garage or conservatory roofs are accessible, you should also use RC2 there, otherwise you undermine your burglary protection on the ground floor.

Since the additional cost from RC1 to RC2 is now only minimal... choose RC2 everywhere and save money elsewhere instead 😉
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JaiBee07
25 Aug 2022 08:22
...and did you choose any special glazing for the children’s room? Tempered glass (ESG) on the inside or laminated safety glass (VSG)?

Background: During an approaching thunderstorm, the (old) hallway door with a glass panel in my current house slammed shut. The float glass cracked, and a piece of glass about 20cm (8 inches) in size was stuck upright in the parquet floor right in front of the door.
I never would have thought something like that was possible...

By the way, I have never come across simple tempered glass (ESG) on the inside in all the glass configurations I’ve seen. It seems nobody does that.
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xMisterDx
25 Aug 2022 21:41
It’s not mandatory. You can’t compare a window to an interior door from Obi. For an interior door, I would also choose tempered safety glass if a child might not stop in time or if the door slams shut.

But for a window? It has to be able to withstand the weather.