ᐅ Is the floor plan for a single-family house structurally feasible?

Created on: 27 Jul 2016 08:16
M
Mani999
We have planned the floor layout of our future single-family house according to our wishes. However, before we consult an architect or structural engineer, I would like to ask here whether the floor plan is structurally somewhat realistic.

Exterior walls: 50 cm (20 inches) brick
Interior walls: 30 cm (12 inches) brick

The dimensions refer to the interior measurements (so without the brick thickness).
I have fewer concerns about the right side. But can the left side be realized as planned (without any extensive special constructions)?

Thank you very much for your help/opinions.


2D-Hausgrundriss mit Wohnbereich, Küche, Garage und Garten
M
Mani999
29 Jul 2016 08:14
Thank you for the feedback. It is helpfully critical (which is good, because that’s exactly what I asked for 🙂) and constructive.
The plan is just a "first wish list" from laypeople (us) who tried to visually represent the idea in our minds.
I have one more question...

Do you really find the staircase in the middle that unusual? The goal was to keep everything somewhat open while still creating a certain separation (living room - dining area - kitchen). The basic idea behind the staircase is that family members "meet" there. So, not just entering the front door and immediately going upstairs to their rooms. Also, we definitely prefer a straight staircase over a “U” or “L” shape.

And one more question...
Are there really that many “traffic routes”? Okay, from the wardrobe to the kitchen and in front of the staircase… but otherwise?

Before we “tried out” the first plan, we made a list of what we wanted:
- A separate room for washing and hanging laundry (a utility room)
- A straight staircase
- A pantry near the kitchen
- Living room - dining area - kitchen somewhat separated but still open (so not separate rooms, but arranged so that if I have a poker game in the dining area, the lady can sit “unnoticed” in the living room)
- A reasonably large wardrobe area (it’s important to know that there is no wall around the wardrobe – the window belongs to the upper floor)
- Space for a large dining table (for at least 8 people)
- NO basement
- ...

Are these wishes really so unusual?
Is it really that expensive to implement the idea roughly like this (yes, of course cost plays an important role 🙂)

P.S.: The hallway between the staircase and pantry is currently about 1.50 meters (5 feet) wide. Too narrow?) – The dresser is placed there as a must-have 🙂
RobsonMKK29 Jul 2016 09:17
Mani999 schrieb:
- A dedicated room for laundry, drying, etc. (i.e., utility room)
- a separate pantry near the kitchen

I don’t quite understand why you want to keep them separate. What do you plan to store in the pantry, and what else besides the washing machine, dryer, clothesline, and a cabinet for cleaning supplies will be in the utility room? After all, the utility room doesn’t look so small that it couldn’t also fit a freezer and shelving for canned goods, for example.
Jochen10429 Jul 2016 10:13
Hello,
since the focus is now more on floor plan planning, you might want to post the necessary information listed by Yvonne in this thread: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissplanung-bitte-vor-thread-erstellung-lesen.11714/. This will probably help us assist you better.
Perhaps you have already created a floor plan for the upper floor?

What I also noticed:
The distance from the kitchen (e.g., refrigerator) to the dining table is quite long. However, you will walk this route very often (setting and clearing the breakfast table, setting and clearing the lunch table, maybe a coffee break in the afternoon, and the same in the evening). For me, that distance is too far. I would rather accept the longer walk you also have from the garage to the kitchen.
About the pantry: we have a large freezer and a storage cabinet in the utility room. In my opinion, that is all you need today. Everything else is either stored directly in the kitchen or in the heating room (in your case, the extension) behind the garage. Therefore, I would allocate the space of your pantry more to the kitchen (and partly to the utility room).
M
Mani999
29 Jul 2016 11:31
The utility room is about 10m² (108 sq ft) and was originally intended only for laundry, drying clothes, etc. – it’s close to the garden for hanging laundry outside.
In the pantry, I would store everything related to food (canned goods, drinks, pasta, snacks, etc.) as well as the “clean” waste like recycling bags and paper waste – it’s close to the kitchen.

The distance to the dining table is correct; I need to look at that distance more closely.

For me, the kitchen would be too large if I left out the pantry.
Jochen10429 Jul 2016 11:50
At this early stage, I wouldn’t get too attached to the floor plan you created.

Try using this list
Mani999 schrieb:
Before we even tried the first plan, we made a list of what we wanted:
- A separate room for laundry, drying, etc. (a utility room)
- A straight staircase
- A pantry near the kitchen
- Living room - dining area - kitchen somewhat separated but still open (so not separate rooms, but so that if I have a poker night in the dining area, the lady can sit "unnoticed" in the living room)
- A reasonably large coatroom (note that there is no wall in the coatroom – the window belongs to the upper floor)
- Space for a large dining table (for at least 8 people)
- NO basement
- ...
(including the notes you might have already picked up here) and just go to an architect and ask for a free initial consultation with a rough floor plan sketch.
Maybe something good will come out of it.
Y
ypg
29 Jul 2016 11:53
Mani999 schrieb:

For me, the kitchen would be too large if I removed the pantry.

No one said that removing the pantry (please consider replacing your German ß character in your spelling) would make the design close to perfect.
That’s why it is recommended to discard this design and start over, or better yet, consult a professional right away.
Your requirements are standard; you are now trying to reinvent the wheel with the staircase situation – many paths lead to Rome and also to a good design. You just have to be willing to leave dead-end roads behind, even if it hurts because the effort and time spent were wasted.
By the way, using pencil and graph paper is less time-consuming 🙂