Hello,
We are about to buy a house from a developer. The house is very expensive and costs 730,000 euros without any customizations. It has just over 200 square meters (2,150 square feet) of living space and is a KfW 70 house. For underfloor heating throughout the entire house as a customization, the developer charges 12,000 euros. That seems very, very expensive, doesn’t it? I suspect they want to make a good profit since nowadays almost everyone installs underfloor heating. What are your thoughts on this?
Thank you
Cookie
We are about to buy a house from a developer. The house is very expensive and costs 730,000 euros without any customizations. It has just over 200 square meters (2,150 square feet) of living space and is a KfW 70 house. For underfloor heating throughout the entire house as a customization, the developer charges 12,000 euros. That seems very, very expensive, doesn’t it? I suspect they want to make a good profit since nowadays almost everyone installs underfloor heating. What are your thoughts on this?
Thank you
Cookie
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Bauexperte12 Apr 2016 07:40Good morning,
Do you mean a basement with one full story plus an attic with a pitched roof?
That sounds more like “ready to move in,” rather than just “turnkey.” Is a ventilation system included as well?
Basements used for living space usually have a clear ceiling height of 2.20 to 2.25 meters (7.2 to 7.4 ft). You mention costing around 12,000 euros for underfloor heating including the basement. Could it be that this price also includes raising the basement ceiling height to 2.50 meters (8.2 ft) clear height, as well as installing the technical equipment flush within the basement walls?
If it helps, this is now “normal” in all major urban areas; simply because building land is scarce. On top of that, the energy saving regulations must be met, there is a north-south difference in labor and material costs, and construction projects are now reaching price levels that were unthinkable just a few years ago.
Best regards, Bauexperte
Cookiea schrieb:
The house is architecturally quite ordinary. Basement, 3 floors, 500sqm (5380 sq ft) plot, it is "turnkey,"
Do you mean a basement with one full story plus an attic with a pitched roof?
Cookiea schrieb:
Additional special requests include finishing the bathroom in the attic, a few extra walls, changes to the parquet flooring, and bathroom modifications. Everything else is included,
That sounds more like “ready to move in,” rather than just “turnkey.” Is a ventilation system included as well?
Cookiea schrieb:
Except for the underfloor heating, which is also planned for the basement.
Basements used for living space usually have a clear ceiling height of 2.20 to 2.25 meters (7.2 to 7.4 ft). You mention costing around 12,000 euros for underfloor heating including the basement. Could it be that this price also includes raising the basement ceiling height to 2.50 meters (8.2 ft) clear height, as well as installing the technical equipment flush within the basement walls?
Cookiea schrieb:
We know it’s extremely expensive, but similar prices are being charged everywhere near Frankfurt.
If it helps, this is now “normal” in all major urban areas; simply because building land is scarce. On top of that, the energy saving regulations must be met, there is a north-south difference in labor and material costs, and construction projects are now reaching price levels that were unthinkable just a few years ago.
Best regards, Bauexperte
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Sebastian7912 Apr 2016 07:40With amounts like these and seemingly such "cheap" fittings, I would seriously reconsider whether you really want to build like this...
Or maybe it’s better to accept a slightly longer commute in order to build more affordably?
Leaving out underfloor heating nowadays purely to save costs? Never...
Or maybe it’s better to accept a slightly longer commute in order to build more affordably?
Leaving out underfloor heating nowadays purely to save costs? Never...
The additional cost for underfloor heating would have been about 8,000 euros.
However, we didn’t want underfloor heating anyway. Even today, we are considered "rare birds" for that opinion, but we don’t regret the decision at all. Our radiators in the house are very small and not intrusive. The indoor climate is comfortable.
Many people don’t even notice that we don’t have underfloor heating. They are surprised when we tell them and swear they didn’t see any radiators… funny.
The financing bank had no problem with it. Even now, not every house is built with underfloor heating, by far.
As a trade-off, it was suggested to install the chimney flue. That cost about 4,000 euros. We went ahead with that.
However, we didn’t want underfloor heating anyway. Even today, we are considered "rare birds" for that opinion, but we don’t regret the decision at all. Our radiators in the house are very small and not intrusive. The indoor climate is comfortable.
Many people don’t even notice that we don’t have underfloor heating. They are surprised when we tell them and swear they didn’t see any radiators… funny.
The financing bank had no problem with it. Even now, not every house is built with underfloor heating, by far.
As a trade-off, it was suggested to install the chimney flue. That cost about 4,000 euros. We went ahead with that.
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HilfeHilfe12 Apr 2016 08:35Cookiea schrieb:
We feel exactly the same way.... So we are considering leaving out the underfloor heating.That, on the other hand, I don’t understand – spending 730 and then trying to save on floor heating... hmm.
Well, you have to think carefully about whether you will miss it later or not.
Our underfloor heating system, including all pipes, manifold, and installation, cost approximately €6000 for 190 sqm (2045 sq ft). Additional costs for thermostats and actuators would be around €600.
What exactly is included in the €12,000? The house surely also has screed and insulation.
What exactly is included in the €12,000? The house surely also has screed and insulation.
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