ᐅ Is my planned carport still exempt from requiring a building permit?
Created on: 25 Jul 2024 14:52
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joshia01
Hello,
After 30 years, I would finally like to build a carport.
I would prefer to build it without a building permit/planning permission, but I think it might be too large for that since it needs to fit 2 cars.
In the old development plan from 30 years ago, a simple carport was already marked, but it was never built.
I now want to build my double carport similarly, but instead of 3.60m (12 feet) wide, it will be 6.00m (20 feet) wide.
Because of the roof overhang, it can only be about 4.75m (15.5 feet) deep, or I would need to move it 25cm (10 inches) closer to the street.
But I would be willing to take that risk myself.
Now to my questions:
I have to build the carport about 25cm (10 inches) away from the neighbor’s property line on one side because there is a wall between us, and I don’t want to place the carport on that wall.
- 1. So, the carport will be 5.00m (16.5 feet) deep along the property line on that side.
- 2. On the opposite side, the depth will logically also be 5.00m (16.5 feet). (Does this side count as a property boundary as well, since it is in the middle of my plot?)
- 3. The side facing the street will be 6.00m (20 feet) wide.
- 4. The back side of the carport will logically also be 6.00m (20 feet) wide. (Does this count as a boundary?)
According to what I found online, to be exempt from permitting in Lower Saxony, the built-up property boundary must not exceed 9.00m (30 feet) in depth and all other boundaries must total no more than 15m (50 feet).
So, if sides 2 and 3 count as boundaries, that would mean for all other boundaries: 6.00m + 5.00m + 6.00m = 17m (56 feet).
My question now is: do all four sides of the carport count as property boundaries (which would then mean 17m for “all other boundaries”)?
Or how should this be interpreted?
I would really appreciate an answer.
Thank you
After 30 years, I would finally like to build a carport.
I would prefer to build it without a building permit/planning permission, but I think it might be too large for that since it needs to fit 2 cars.
In the old development plan from 30 years ago, a simple carport was already marked, but it was never built.
I now want to build my double carport similarly, but instead of 3.60m (12 feet) wide, it will be 6.00m (20 feet) wide.
Because of the roof overhang, it can only be about 4.75m (15.5 feet) deep, or I would need to move it 25cm (10 inches) closer to the street.
But I would be willing to take that risk myself.
Now to my questions:
I have to build the carport about 25cm (10 inches) away from the neighbor’s property line on one side because there is a wall between us, and I don’t want to place the carport on that wall.
- 1. So, the carport will be 5.00m (16.5 feet) deep along the property line on that side.
- 2. On the opposite side, the depth will logically also be 5.00m (16.5 feet). (Does this side count as a property boundary as well, since it is in the middle of my plot?)
- 3. The side facing the street will be 6.00m (20 feet) wide.
- 4. The back side of the carport will logically also be 6.00m (20 feet) wide. (Does this count as a boundary?)
According to what I found online, to be exempt from permitting in Lower Saxony, the built-up property boundary must not exceed 9.00m (30 feet) in depth and all other boundaries must total no more than 15m (50 feet).
So, if sides 2 and 3 count as boundaries, that would mean for all other boundaries: 6.00m + 5.00m + 6.00m = 17m (56 feet).
My question now is: do all four sides of the carport count as property boundaries (which would then mean 17m for “all other boundaries”)?
Or how should this be interpreted?
I would really appreciate an answer.
Thank you
joshia01 schrieb:
The question is simply whether a carport of this size is currently allowed in Lower Saxony.Just have a look at the regional building code.M
MachsSelbst27 Jul 2024 23:26So, I found something using Google with just three keywords in three seconds. The official website of the Service Portal of Lower Saxony.
From there, you can navigate further. Or you can simply call the building authority.
I know it sounds crazy, but just ask the people who ultimately make the decisions, instead of relying on people on the internet whose expertise you can’t even verify.
From there, you can navigate further. Or you can simply call the building authority.
I know it sounds crazy, but just ask the people who ultimately make the decisions, instead of relying on people on the internet whose expertise you can’t even verify.
MachsSelbst schrieb:
I know it sounds crazy, but sometimes it makes sense to ask the people who ultimately make the decisions, instead of asking people on the Internet whose expertise you can’t verify. It seems like more and more people nowadays enjoy irony, teasing those asking questions, and well…
Of course, I have searched online.
Calling the building authority? Do you know how the officials/employees often behave nowadays?
First, they try to figure out who you are, maybe dig up the old building permit application, etc. Do you think they’re eager to do you any favors?
They might already be watching you closely, and if you’re just 10cm (4 inches) too close to the property boundary, you’re in trouble. Budgets are tight everywhere. If the carport doesn’t require a permit, then no one at the office needs to find out about it. In my 60 years, I’ve seen enough things going sideways. Sorry.
Why should some forum members have no idea? Maybe one of them actually built such a carport themselves and is sharing their experience.
I just have to pick out what makes sense for me.
It’s not life or death, after all. Somehow, you manage. I’m also looking for answers on how to interpret the data. The information about when a carport is permit-free is online, but how to interpret that is the question.
But thanks for your words.
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MachsSelbst28 Jul 2024 13:57According to the service portal, there are differences between individual cities and municipalities. Therefore, no one can tell you for sure unless it is known exactly where in Lower Saxony you are building... In Hanover, different minor details may apply than in Helmstedt, Aurich, or Göttingen...
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hanghaus202329 Jul 2024 09:37Why would someone make such an important decision without consulting a professional if they have no knowledge themselves?
What does your planner say about the project? They should know the local requirements.
I have studied the relevant zoning plan, the building regulations of the federal state, and then spoke with my neighbor and obtained written consent. After that, I built the CP. I assume that the building authority will not find out that I have constructed a CP.
Strictly speaking, you are required to inform the building authority about the construction of the CP with the appropriate plans. Unfortunately, I forgot to do that. What a mess.
What does your planner say about the project? They should know the local requirements.
I have studied the relevant zoning plan, the building regulations of the federal state, and then spoke with my neighbor and obtained written consent. After that, I built the CP. I assume that the building authority will not find out that I have constructed a CP.
Strictly speaking, you are required to inform the building authority about the construction of the CP with the appropriate plans. Unfortunately, I forgot to do that. What a mess.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
What does your architect say about the plan? They should be familiar with the local requirements.Which architect? This concerns an existing house.joshia01 schrieb:
They first check what kind of case it is, maybe dig out the old building application, etc. Do you really think they want to do you any favors?That’s silly and unprofessional. They have neither the interest nor the time to deal with old matters that are long settled.joshia01 schrieb:
It’s stated online when a carport is exempt from needing a building permit, but the question is how to interpret that.There is a lot of information online. Not all of it is accurate. Building regulations are not open to interpretation; they are clear.
The only point is that you have to apply them and not treat the building setback line as the property boundary.
According to your drawing, you intend to build 6 meters (20 feet) along the property boundary. That is possible.
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