ᐅ Is Basement Space More Expensive Than Living Area?

Created on: 28 Jul 2019 19:27
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hausbauer
Hello,

we are planning to build a single-family house in Bavaria, and due to groundwater pressure in the soil, the fully waterproofed concrete basement will be quite expensive. The general contractor said, "the basement costs more than the above-ground living space." Is it really possible that increasing the size of the above-ground house by nearly the same usable area that is lost by omitting the basement results in cost savings? In other words, is a 150 m² (1,615 sq ft) house with an expensive waterproof concrete basement more costly than a house without a basement but with 150 m² (1,615 sq ft) of living space plus 50-70 m² (540-750 sq ft) of utility rooms (the latter with cheaper flooring, etc.)? The general contractor only had a few rough rules of thumb, which obviously didn’t apply well in this case, and did not provide any actual cost calculations. Strangely, he also refused to calculate both options side by side, saying it would be too time-consuming.

Does anyone here have real experience with this? It would be very helpful, thanks in advance!

Best regards
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Bookstar
30 Jul 2019 20:59
Scout schrieb:

What I never understood about laundry chutes: they just collect the laundry in another location.
I thought the same until I had one. Usually, it saves at least one long trip from the ground floor to the upper floor and then to the basement. It’s also really convenient to have the dirty laundry right where it belongs instead of piled up on the upper floor.

I can definitely recommend it to anyone who is unsure—we were uncertain before building as well.
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ypg
30 Jul 2019 22:35
Bookstar schrieb:

It’s simply nice to have the dirty laundry right where it belongs.

Where exactly does it belong? In the laundry room. Some people have one, but it’s located where the laundry actually originates...
It’s simply nice to have the dirty laundry washing machine right where it belongs Source: @Bookstar
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Bookstar
30 Jul 2019 22:56
If it weren’t for the noise aspect, I would completely agree.
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Snowy36
30 Jul 2019 23:01
You can also place the laundry chute from the upper floor bathroom to the ground floor utility room, which is something I've seen often.

The point is that I personally don’t want a laundry basket or something like that in my nice master bathroom, but prefer to have it in a less visible room, such as a basement or the utility room… everyone to their own preference.

The downside is that the laundry piles up out of sight there, and out of sight means out of mind. Since then, my husband hasn’t been helping with the laundry as often (-;
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Traumfaenger
30 Jul 2019 23:28
The basement was offered to us for 120 sqm (1,292 sq ft) with a waterproof concrete shell ("white tank") at prices between 130,000-140,000 EUR, of course excluding excavation work. There was also the additional risk of water management, which would have completely blown the budget. Another risk factor was the disposal of the excavated soil at a landfill.
haydee schrieb:

Oh, it’s simply shorter distances. If it’s above ground, why not place it where it’s needed?
=> Absolutely, we planned more than enough storage space above ground and placed the laundry room with a patio door leading outside to the garden. It can be ventilated very well (through draft) and there are short distances for drying laundry in the sun.
Bookstar schrieb:

I agree. If you don’t hear a spinning washing machine, there’s something wrong with your ears. Dryers with contents like zippers are also noisy.
=> Laundry room behind the garage, far away from the living areas, so you don’t hear anything. Not even if the machines run all night. Of course, this always depends on individual house planning.
Scout schrieb:

What I never understand about laundry chutes: they just collect laundry in another place. But whether I have a laundry basket in the bedroom or bathroom or in the basement hardly makes a difference.
Basically yes. In our old apartment, we had a laundry bin in the bathroom on the upper floor. Now we have a laundry chute from the upper floor to the utility room. The chute is located between the bathroom and bedroom. The result: laundry immediately ends up downstairs and is sorted for washing quickly. The threshold to do this is lower than having to carry the heavy bin down the stairs. But this can vary individually.
Bookstar schrieb:

Yeah, I thought the same until I had one. You generally save at least one long trip from the ground floor to the upper floor and then to the basement. And it’s just nice to have the dirty laundry right where it belongs and not stored temporarily upstairs.
Exactly, as mentioned above.
Snowy36 schrieb:

You can also make the laundry chute from the upper floor bathroom to the ground floor utility room, I have often seen that.
Yes, we did that too, and it was a good decision!
11ant31 Jul 2019 01:13
Snowy36 schrieb:

The laundry chute can also be routed from the upstairs bathroom to the utility room on the ground floor.

The laundry chute (singular) here means, according to previous contributors, one single-compartment chute?
How do you manage sorting the laundry then: collect separate loads to be dropped down all at once, or drop items individually and sort them only when loading the washing machine — and does the child, due to lack of sorting practice, perceive colors, delicates, and whites as “just a mixed pile”?

Or does mom pick up the socks from the children’s bedroom floor, and the child is not really among the users of the chute?
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