ᐅ Is a TAE socket still required nowadays?

Nummer12 schrieb:

Reading all this really makes me angry. I think it’s good that you’re also contacting the various official authorities. The COVID-19 pandemic should have shown even the most outdated politicians ("new territory") that it’s not “just” about Netflix in 4K, dirty movies, and online games, but that essential infrastructure for home office, emergency remote schooling for children, access to online lectures for students, medical video consultations, etc., is not sufficiently available.

But sometimes politicians aren’t to blame either. Where we bought our building plot last year, FTTH (fiber to the home) is currently being rolled out comprehensively. The connection is currently free for everyone during the pre-marketing phase.

Now here comes the catch... in some villages, only the minimum number (percentage) of connections needed to authorize the rollout has been ordered.

Sometimes the residents themselves are to blame if later no young families want to move there and property values drop significantly.

For my wife and me, it was very important to have at least VDSL 50 (50 Mbps) available. When I learned that FTTH was coming, the excitement was very high, and it was also a direct reason for purchasing the plot (there were other positive reasons as well).

Unfortunately, that’s exactly how it is. The absurdity of the Digital Network Act allowing Deutsche Telekom to install a cable during any civil engineering work... it’s no surprise that other providers slow down expansion efforts when Telekom is allowed to expand its DSL network at their expense (or was allowed?) and this is even supported by the government (or was supported?).

Considering the expensive tariffs for hybrid internet, I’m not surprised that Telekom shows no real interest in nationwide network expansion. Germany is once again falling behind, with politicians stuck in the 1980s. At least in Bavaria, there is a gigabit directive until 2025—including funding for the expansion. We’ll see if that makes any difference.

untergasse43 schrieb:

So? The ambitious politician then goes to the telecom company and says, "Hey, biggest and best provider on the market, the citizen says they have no internet!" The telecom company replies, "Of course, the citizen has super fast internet via LTE! And thanks to our world’s best routers, they don’t even notice it, and everything is just great!"

That you miss a few milliseconds of latency for smooth gaming, that the routers might only just be sufficient for a two-room apartment, or that you unfortunately can’t find a suitable data plan for streaming—no one cares about that. Whether the solution is red, blue, or magenta also doesn’t matter. The fact is, you have fast internet.

When we had the LTE800 rollout (Telekom + Vodafone) back then, it was marketed as a "high-speed expansion." Nobody cared that the plans at the time were worthless.
On top of that, the radio cell was completely overloaded.

Strahleman schrieb:


With the expensive tariffs for hybrid internet, I’m not surprised that the telecom providers have no interest in a nationwide network expansion. Germany is once again lagging far behind, especially due to politicians stuck in the 1980s. At least Bavaria has a gigabit directive until 2025 – including subsidies for expansion. Let’s see if that will actually make a difference.

In the past, even the most remote fields were connected by roads... until recently, you had to be happy if a conduit was even installed during road construction.

By 2025???? Wasn’t there a deadline for nationwide expansion in Germany to 50,000 (units/connections)?

My brother-in-law lived until last year in the Ruhr area (a larger city) near a train station and only got VDSL 25. Now he lives outside the same city and has VDSL 250.

I always say, don’t believe it until the speed is actually bookable and delivered!

There are plenty of examples here with “ports fully booked,” and I know very few new development areas around here (northern NRW) where FTTH is available.

Smirnoff1983 schrieb:

Now here comes the catch... In some villages, only the minimum percentage of connections required was ordered to allow the expansion to proceed.
Then, in some cases, the residents are partly to blame themselves when no young families want to move in later and their properties lose significant value.

Are you saying that the new development areas suffered because too few original village residents, unhappy with their 6k DSL, ordered fiber optic connections?
I have been a satisfied internet and phone user over cable TV coax for ten years—so why should I care about the telecom cables in my housing block?

Smirnoff1983 schrieb:

Wasn't there a deadline for nationwide expansion in Germany to 50k?

According to Zager & Evans in the year 2525

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11ant schrieb:

Are you suggesting that the new residential areas suffered because too few long-time village residents with their 6k DSL were dissatisfied and didn’t order fiber optic?
I’ve been a happy internet and phone user over TV coax for ten years, so why should I care about the telecom cables in my block of houses?

If it were 6k. Until the FTTH rollout, most people were on DSL Light. Often, the problem is that where there is no decent DSL, there is also often no coax cable available. But that’s just my experience.

For each village, the percentage of households that ordered an FTTH connection was reported. From that, I would say you can derive some conclusions.

Unfortunately, many don’t know that LTE and cable internet are both shared media. You might be lucky if your neighbors use the internet very sparingly, but if there are several heavy users, things can quickly look different.

11ant schrieb:

According to Zager & Evans in the year 2525

I think some would be happy about that, but will it really work out???