Hello,
for a while now, we have been considering whether adding a second shower bathroom makes sense or not.
Currently, we are two adults and a nearly 6-year-old child.
On the ground floor (GF), we have a small guest toilet without a shower.
On the upper floor (UF), there is the main bathroom with both a shower and a bathtub. The bedroom and a child’s room will also be on this floor for now.
In the attic floor (AF), we could install an additional shower bathroom.
This floor currently houses the office/guest room (14m² (150 sq ft)) as well as another child’s room (17m² (183 sq ft)), potentially for another child in the future.
We are building a semi-detached house with a developer and cannot decide yet.
Our current pros and cons list:
Pros:
- A dedicated shower for guests on the same floor
- When the child gets older and possibly moves upstairs or has visitors, there would be a private area there
- If our family eventually grows to four (one adult plus two school-age children who would need to leave the house at the same time), there would be an additional bathroom so no one has to wait. Besides, there is still the guest toilet.
Cons:
- Additional costs that could probably be better allocated elsewhere
- In my youth, there was only one bathroom with a bathtub for everyone, and it worked fine
- When we visited others, we often didn’t have a private shower bathroom either, which didn’t bother us at all
- We currently have a very small bathroom with only a shower, and so far there have been no problems, even with guests.
Another factor, if we decide on another shower bathroom, besides the price, is the level of completion. There are three options:
1. Installation of supply lines for hot and cold water, including ventilation preparation
2. Shower bathroom preparation (requires option 1), including wall construction, electrical outlets, and lighting
3. Final completion (requires options 1 and 2), including shower tray (likely shower screen too), sink, and toilet
Tiling would be extra as well.
We considered selecting only the supply line installation initially and then building the walls later.
However, the question would be how lighting and electricity would be handled then.
Also, the entire attic floor would need to be altered and renewed later.
Or rather choose options 1 and 2 now and complete the final finishing later.
Perhaps others here have additional pros or cons to share.
Thank you.
for a while now, we have been considering whether adding a second shower bathroom makes sense or not.
Currently, we are two adults and a nearly 6-year-old child.
On the ground floor (GF), we have a small guest toilet without a shower.
On the upper floor (UF), there is the main bathroom with both a shower and a bathtub. The bedroom and a child’s room will also be on this floor for now.
In the attic floor (AF), we could install an additional shower bathroom.
This floor currently houses the office/guest room (14m² (150 sq ft)) as well as another child’s room (17m² (183 sq ft)), potentially for another child in the future.
We are building a semi-detached house with a developer and cannot decide yet.
Our current pros and cons list:
Pros:
- A dedicated shower for guests on the same floor
- When the child gets older and possibly moves upstairs or has visitors, there would be a private area there
- If our family eventually grows to four (one adult plus two school-age children who would need to leave the house at the same time), there would be an additional bathroom so no one has to wait. Besides, there is still the guest toilet.
Cons:
- Additional costs that could probably be better allocated elsewhere
- In my youth, there was only one bathroom with a bathtub for everyone, and it worked fine
- When we visited others, we often didn’t have a private shower bathroom either, which didn’t bother us at all
- We currently have a very small bathroom with only a shower, and so far there have been no problems, even with guests.
Another factor, if we decide on another shower bathroom, besides the price, is the level of completion. There are three options:
1. Installation of supply lines for hot and cold water, including ventilation preparation
2. Shower bathroom preparation (requires option 1), including wall construction, electrical outlets, and lighting
3. Final completion (requires options 1 and 2), including shower tray (likely shower screen too), sink, and toilet
Tiling would be extra as well.
We considered selecting only the supply line installation initially and then building the walls later.
However, the question would be how lighting and electricity would be handled then.
Also, the entire attic floor would need to be altered and renewed later.
Or rather choose options 1 and 2 now and complete the final finishing later.
Perhaps others here have additional pros or cons to share.
Thank you.
@Sebastian79 With four sisters, I imagine it would be more challenging, especially considering how long I sometimes spend in the bathroom.
In our household, one person always leaves the house while the others are still sleeping, then the other parent and the child follow. This probably won’t change, unless we’re both home all day.
We have overnight guests about 2-3 times a year.
@BeHaElJa Just the tiling work—for the floor and walls. According to the description:
"Shower area, tile height 2.00 m (6 ft 7 in) above the shower tray, area approx. 4.00 m² (43 sq ft)
Area behind the toilet, tile height 1.60 m (5 ft 3 in), area approx. 1.80 m² (19 sq ft)
Wall by the washbasin, tile height 1.60 m (5 ft 3 in), area approx. 4.00 m² (43 sq ft)
Floor area 3.70 m² (40 sq ft)"
In our household, one person always leaves the house while the others are still sleeping, then the other parent and the child follow. This probably won’t change, unless we’re both home all day.
We have overnight guests about 2-3 times a year.
@BeHaElJa Just the tiling work—for the floor and walls. According to the description:
"Shower area, tile height 2.00 m (6 ft 7 in) above the shower tray, area approx. 4.00 m² (43 sq ft)
Area behind the toilet, tile height 1.60 m (5 ft 3 in), area approx. 1.80 m² (19 sq ft)
Wall by the washbasin, tile height 1.60 m (5 ft 3 in), area approx. 4.00 m² (43 sq ft)
Floor area 3.70 m² (40 sq ft)"
How much does it cost to install just the water supply and ventilation in the initial stage? I would then have the finishing work done later as needed by a more affordable company. You might eventually move upstairs yourselves. Additionally, this way the attic space can be sold more easily because the living value under the roof is higher.
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Sebastian793 Jul 2016 22:12Difficult, as dead-end branch lines are not allowed – it is complex to separate them in the junction box afterwards.
That’s why I would go ahead with the separation, installing a simple toilet and a basic washbasin on the wall. If necessary, also a simple shower tray, though with careful planning you might be able to prepare everything in advance (in the floor and wall, with the pipes running toward the washbasin, but not connected yet). An access panel in the wall or similar.
ypg, stage 1 costs €1600 and stage 2 would be €3200.
At first, we definitely wanted to have at least the wiring installed, but then we started thinking about how we would get electricity and lighting into the walls we build ourselves.
Maybe it’s possible through the builder to have the electrical and lighting cables run upwards? The cables would then be hidden inside a duct.
Perhaps have the walls constructed by a company, and in the same process have the electrical and lighting wiring installed? But this point directly at move-in. So that you don’t have to change the rooms upstairs later on. At least the walls would already be in place.
We had already planned for stage 1 and 2 and included a buffer, but is it really worth putting all the buffer money into a bathroom that we will hardly use in the first 5 years? There are many other things we would use immediately.
At first, we definitely wanted to have at least the wiring installed, but then we started thinking about how we would get electricity and lighting into the walls we build ourselves.
Maybe it’s possible through the builder to have the electrical and lighting cables run upwards? The cables would then be hidden inside a duct.
Perhaps have the walls constructed by a company, and in the same process have the electrical and lighting wiring installed? But this point directly at move-in. So that you don’t have to change the rooms upstairs later on. At least the walls would already be in place.
We had already planned for stage 1 and 2 and included a buffer, but is it really worth putting all the buffer money into a bathroom that we will hardly use in the first 5 years? There are many other things we would use immediately.
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