ᐅ Is it possible to build a floor plan with a garage on this plot?
Created on: 11 Apr 2015 19:07
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Häusle77
Hello,
we have finally purchased a corner plot of about 600 sqm (6,458 sq ft).
The access is on the north side via a traffic-calmed street, to the east there is only a turning circle, to the south a private road, and to the west is our only immediate neighbor.
That’s why we wanted to place a double garage or double carport directly on the western boundary.
The problem now is that we would have to move the garage quite far to the south because of the bathroom window, and we are concerned that in the afternoon no sunlight will reach the living room. The advantage would, of course, be privacy from the neighbor.
Even if we shorten the garage to 6 m (20 ft), there would still be an overhang toward the house.
In your opinion, how much overhang would still be acceptable?
Another alternative would be a carport with a shed, which could be flush with the house. However, this would let very little light into the bathroom.
Of course, the bathroom could also be relocated to the north, but then the utility room would be even smaller, or the staircase wouldn’t fit—there’s always something...
Ideally, there would also be an access from the utility room to the garage or carport, but with only 9 sqm (97 sq ft) for the utility room, we would probably lose a wall...
I have roughly sketched the plot with our favorite house / ground floor plan. The dashed lines indicate the 3 m (10 ft) setback boundary, which must be observed for the garage/carport (max. 6 x 9 m / 20 x 30 ft). On the south side the house has a bay window with a gable dormer...
What do you think?
we have finally purchased a corner plot of about 600 sqm (6,458 sq ft).
The access is on the north side via a traffic-calmed street, to the east there is only a turning circle, to the south a private road, and to the west is our only immediate neighbor.
That’s why we wanted to place a double garage or double carport directly on the western boundary.
The problem now is that we would have to move the garage quite far to the south because of the bathroom window, and we are concerned that in the afternoon no sunlight will reach the living room. The advantage would, of course, be privacy from the neighbor.
Even if we shorten the garage to 6 m (20 ft), there would still be an overhang toward the house.
In your opinion, how much overhang would still be acceptable?
Another alternative would be a carport with a shed, which could be flush with the house. However, this would let very little light into the bathroom.
Of course, the bathroom could also be relocated to the north, but then the utility room would be even smaller, or the staircase wouldn’t fit—there’s always something...
Ideally, there would also be an access from the utility room to the garage or carport, but with only 9 sqm (97 sq ft) for the utility room, we would probably lose a wall...
I have roughly sketched the plot with our favorite house / ground floor plan. The dashed lines indicate the 3 m (10 ft) setback boundary, which must be observed for the garage/carport (max. 6 x 9 m / 20 x 30 ft). On the south side the house has a bay window with a gable dormer...
What do you think?
Then you need to reconsider the floor plan, but if the garage is going to be on the west side, I see little room for a west-facing window! And if the sun shines directly from the west in the late afternoon, you won’t get much natural light there anyway. Alternatively, you could install a skylight. You can’t have everything! I think you’ll need to weigh the options: a few hours of sunlight or the benefits of having a garage next to the utility room with direct access.
Our plot looks almost the same, but for us, the garage side is the north side.
We deliberately left a passage between the garage and the house to easily move trash bins, wheelbarrows, and so on directly to the front. Our child can also get from the rear part of the 9m (30 feet) garage to the front with their ride-on toys (and later with a bicycle) without having to go past the cars and without having to open the gate themselves.
Our garage extends approximately 4m (13 feet) beyond the house. Since the neighbor on the other side also built an extended enclosed carport, our terrace is shielded from both sides without feeling cramped.
We deliberately left a passage between the garage and the house to easily move trash bins, wheelbarrows, and so on directly to the front. Our child can also get from the rear part of the 9m (30 feet) garage to the front with their ride-on toys (and later with a bicycle) without having to go past the cars and without having to open the gate themselves.
Our garage extends approximately 4m (13 feet) beyond the house. Since the neighbor on the other side also built an extended enclosed carport, our terrace is shielded from both sides without feeling cramped.
Am I missing something here, or why don’t I see your problem?
You didn’t mention that at all!
Great, then you have “your” privacy screen towards the neighbors. You can cover their driveway with a hedge.
Do they have to? What advantages would that bring?
Why just now???
Is it that you don’t want sun or that you do? I understood that you want sun in the afternoon/evening. Then I wonder why you place the living room on the east side. Flip the whole house and put the garage on the east as well. The neighbor’s garage will shield you from their terrace; the rest can be planted. Place the west-facing windows in the living area close to the southwest corner—that’s where the sun hits the living room in the afternoon. Only in winter will the garage probably shade it. Our plot is 20m (65 feet) wide with the same orientation and the neighbor’s garage in the same position. We have 6m (20 feet) to the western property line, which is enough not to have their garage right in front of the windows.
Regards, Yvonne
Häusle77 schrieb:
Then the distance from the utility room to the garage is too far.
Häusle77 schrieb:
There should ideally still be a door to the utility room, preferably even with access to the garage!
You didn’t mention that at all!
Häusle77 schrieb:
Also, the neighbor to the west is placing their garage right on our boundary.
Great, then you have “your” privacy screen towards the neighbors. You can cover their driveway with a hedge.
Häusle77 schrieb:
That way the garages would at least be next to each other...
Do they have to? What advantages would that bring?
Häusle77 schrieb:
I think we need to look at a few more floor plans. If necessary, we’ll just give up on the office and the shower on the ground floor!
Why just now???
Häusle77 schrieb:
It’s actually more about the sun not shining into the living area from the afternoon onward.
Is it that you don’t want sun or that you do? I understood that you want sun in the afternoon/evening. Then I wonder why you place the living room on the east side. Flip the whole house and put the garage on the east as well. The neighbor’s garage will shield you from their terrace; the rest can be planted. Place the west-facing windows in the living area close to the southwest corner—that’s where the sun hits the living room in the afternoon. Only in winter will the garage probably shade it. Our plot is 20m (65 feet) wide with the same orientation and the neighbor’s garage in the same position. We have 6m (20 feet) to the western property line, which is enough not to have their garage right in front of the windows.
Regards, Yvonne
Hello Yvonne,
Thank you for your message and your input.
As already mentioned, this is a corner plot bordered by roadside greenery.
I’ll quote the zoning plan:
Exclusion of ancillary buildings and garages
In the area between the street boundary line and the street-facing developable areas, garages and ancillary buildings as defined in § 14 of the land use ordinance are excluded (§12 para. 6 and §14 para. 1 of the land use ordinance).
Since our plot shows a 3m (10 feet) building boundary, I assume that placing a garage directly on the boundary will not be straightforward.
Perhaps someone can clarify this topic for me, as I haven’t been able to reach anyone from the city office about it so far.
If I have to keep 3m (10 feet) on the east side, and the garage is 6m (20 feet) wide and the house 11m (36 feet) wide, that leaves me just under 2m (6.5 feet) to the neighboring plot on the west side!
Since the kitchen is overall narrower than the living room, we can more easily do without a window there.
Of course, having direct access to the garage would be nice, but with this floor plan it’s impossible and not essential.
Thank you for your message and your input.
As already mentioned, this is a corner plot bordered by roadside greenery.
I’ll quote the zoning plan:
Exclusion of ancillary buildings and garages
In the area between the street boundary line and the street-facing developable areas, garages and ancillary buildings as defined in § 14 of the land use ordinance are excluded (§12 para. 6 and §14 para. 1 of the land use ordinance).
Since our plot shows a 3m (10 feet) building boundary, I assume that placing a garage directly on the boundary will not be straightforward.
Perhaps someone can clarify this topic for me, as I haven’t been able to reach anyone from the city office about it so far.
If I have to keep 3m (10 feet) on the east side, and the garage is 6m (20 feet) wide and the house 11m (36 feet) wide, that leaves me just under 2m (6.5 feet) to the neighboring plot on the west side!
Since the kitchen is overall narrower than the living room, we can more easily do without a window there.
Of course, having direct access to the garage would be nice, but with this floor plan it’s impossible and not essential.
Häusle77 schrieb:
By placing the WC on the north side, we end up with a narrower utility room, and the mail carrier can cheerfully greet anyone using the bathroom through the window.
..Why? If the WC is "moved," won’t that free up more space for the utility room again?
Regarding the mail carrier and the WC: frosted glass, etc....
Attached is the roughly planned layout of the ground floor.
The WC could be placed parallel to the stairs, with the window facing north.
However, this would leave a rather narrow, already quite small utility room.
Alternatively, you could completely forgo the office and place the WC there (with a small cloakroom in front), which would allow for a larger utility room and living room.
Maybe you have a better idea!?
The WC could be placed parallel to the stairs, with the window facing north.
However, this would leave a rather narrow, already quite small utility room.
Alternatively, you could completely forgo the office and place the WC there (with a small cloakroom in front), which would allow for a larger utility room and living room.
Maybe you have a better idea!?
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