ᐅ Is a building permit / planning permission required retroactively for a 45 sqm carport in Schleswig-Holstein?

Created on: 10 Apr 2023 22:57
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Pumpernickel1
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Pumpernickel1
10 Apr 2023 22:57
Hello everyone,
I have the following problem:

During the planning of our house, the parking spaces were also included in the drawings. The architect stated that nothing else needed to be included, as no further information was required for the building permit / planning permission. That was two years ago.

Now we want to move forward with a double carport with an attached shed and found out that since the end of last year, a building permit / planning permission is required in Schleswig-Holstein for structures over 30 square meters (323 square feet). This is very frustrating, as the architect could have addressed this right away back then.

We are wondering if there is a way to avoid this building permit / planning permission? Or do we have to bite the bullet and spend around 3000€ for the permit application, drawings, and structural calculations? We are currently trying to find solutions. If we had built the double carport six to nine months ago, we wouldn’t have needed a permit. Now we do...

Can you follow so far and suggest possible options? Thank you.
Tolentino11 Apr 2023 11:35
Where did my post go? There was nothing forbidden in it, was there?

So, again in brief:
- Separate the buildings, for example, carport and shed separately, possibly two carports.
- Observe the maximum boundary construction limits.
- Carport suppliers often offer building permit / planning permission services that cost significantly less than 3,000 euros.
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ypg
11 Apr 2023 12:26
… could have been.
You don’t have one, so you will need to submit a building permit application / planning permission request. It certainly doesn’t cost 3000€. As far as I know, the costs depend on the type of project being applied for, but the procedure may differ in Schleswig-Holstein, for example, through a flat fee.
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Pumpernickel1
11 Apr 2023 16:27
Tolentino schrieb:

Where did my post go? There was nothing prohibited in it, was there?

So, once again in brief:
- Separate the buildings, so a carport and shed separately, possibly two carports.
- Observe the maximum boundary development.
- Carport suppliers often offer a building permit / planning permission service that is significantly cheaper than 3,000 euros.

Would that actually work? So, first set up a double carport up to 30sqm (around 323sqft), which is exempt from permitting. Then later add a separate storage room / shed (for example, a biohort) next to it, as long as the 9m (around 30ft) length along the neighbor's boundary is maintained.

I have already requested a few quotes where the costs for drawings and structural calculations would be around 2,500 euros gross. Additional fees to the authorities would also apply. Hence my question here, whether this could be avoided.
Tolentino11 Apr 2023 16:36
I am neither a surveyor nor a lawyer, but I would say yes. It definitely has to be a completely separate building. So, a shared roof or common wall is not allowed. I am planning to do it this way myself and, to be absolutely clear, I will build two shed roofs placed one behind the other with the same slope direction. From a side view, the roofs will then form a zigzag shape.

As I mentioned, you should check with the carport suppliers, as they often offer this service as part of their package. It is also easier for them since they already have the necessary documents on hand.
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Pumpernickel1
11 Apr 2023 17:56
Tolentino schrieb:

I’m neither a surveyor nor a lawyer, but I would say yes. It definitely has to be a completely separate building. So, sharing a roof or a wall is not allowed. I’m planning to do it that way myself, and to be absolutely clear, I’m going to build two shed roofs one behind the other with the same slope direction. So, looking at it from the side, the roofs will form a zigzag pattern.
As I said, you should check with the carport suppliers; they often offer this service ready-made. It’s easier for them because they already have all the necessary documentation.


Thanks for the information. The building authority also confirmed this. As long as the carport or storage room does not exceed 30 sqm (320 sq ft). Then we will probably do it that way. Thanks