ᐅ Installation of a Gas Heating System in New Construction 2023/2024
Created on: 11 Apr 2023 14:47
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robert0815
Hello fellow home builders,
we have started constructing a single-family house. The approved building permit / planning permission includes a gas heating system, which we still want to install.
There are two possible scenarios:
1. What happens if the heating system is installed in October 2023, but the house is only inspected and approved in February 2024?
2. What happens if the heating system is installed in January 2024, and the house is inspected and approved in May 2024?
Both options are difficult to plan for. So far, we do not know whether the construction schedule might be delayed.
I haven't found any information on this. Do you have any further details?
Regards,
robert0815
we have started constructing a single-family house. The approved building permit / planning permission includes a gas heating system, which we still want to install.
There are two possible scenarios:
1. What happens if the heating system is installed in October 2023, but the house is only inspected and approved in February 2024?
2. What happens if the heating system is installed in January 2024, and the house is inspected and approved in May 2024?
Both options are difficult to plan for. So far, we do not know whether the construction schedule might be delayed.
I haven't found any information on this. Do you have any further details?
Regards,
robert0815
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xMisterDx19 May 2023 12:44guckuck2 schrieb:
Electricity price is still under 30 cents, with heat pump electricity at 26 cents. That’s about 2.6 times the cost of gas and worth it just considering consumption costs, even in existing buildings. An extra €15,000 for a heat pump is crazy though, and whoever replaces in 2027… well, you can do that. Oh, and regarding the question of "worth it": calculate how much you save per year and then divide the €15,000 by that amount. You’ll get something between 10 and 20, which means that’s how many years it takes to break even. Only after that do you really start saving money. By then, the heat pump will probably be worn out and you’ll need a new one…
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RotorMotor19 May 2023 13:13How can a device that costs €2,000 to €8,000 generate an alleged additional cost of €15,000?
xMisterDx schrieb:
Then I'll just buy the heat pump in 2027... but definitely not today, right in the middle of the most absurd price peak of all time?You want to give lectures about cost-effectiveness based on the most unrealistic assumptions, but at the same time plan to replace a gas boiler after just 3 years? Do the math…
Price peak… just wait and see what happens starting in 2027.
A €15,000 (about $16,200) surcharge is nonsense.
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KarstenausNRW19 May 2023 14:02guckuck2 schrieb:
Price peak … just wait and see what will happen starting in 2027.Price parity with gas heating.Production capacities are currently being built everywhere without limits. Bosch has just opened a new factory and is investing €250 million in building another facility that will start production in 2025. Viessmann is also investing a billion euros by 2026, with the foundation stone for a new production plant worth €250 million laid last year. Vaillant’s new factory in Slovakia (which began production in May) can produce 300,000 heat pumps annually (Vaillant’s total capacity is 500,000 units). And these are only the major German manufacturers.
Additional investments in heat pumps (development and production):
Stiebel Eltron: €700 million by 2027
Daikin: €840 million by 2025
Panasonic: €350 million by March 2025 (expansion of existing plants)
Nibe: construction of a new research center and factory
Mitsubishi: massive production expansion, e.g., in Turkey to 300,000 air-to-water heat pumps per year (plus 1.1 million air-to-air heat pumps/air conditioning units)
Besides these, there are various lesser-known (Asian) manufacturers pushing into the market and already forming partnerships with installers.
The market will truly be flooded with all types of heat pumps by 2027.
xMisterDx schrieb:
I just got mail in the mailbox. The municipal utility is lowering the gas price from 20 to 11 cents in the basic supply, and there are already some providers offering less than 10 cents with a 12-month fixed price.
I notice that competition is back. I will now sign up for regular household electricity (we only have one meter) at 28.5 cents with a large yellow discount retailer.
Heating and driving the car are fun again!