ᐅ initial brainstorming

Created on: 5 Feb 2015 15:48
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G-Star1988
Hello community,

Since I’m planning to build a house within the next 1-3 years, it’s about time to start thinking a bit about the construction process.

As there is no specific plot yet, creating a floor plan doesn’t make much sense at this point, but I’ve roughly outlined what I might need/want.

I’m interested in getting an idea of the approximate costs involved (whether it’s about €40,000 more or less doesn’t really matter ;-) ) and am looking for experiences from other homeowners. The construction is planned for Lower Saxony.

So here’s roughly what I had in mind: the house should be about 145 sqm (1,560 sq ft) and built with solid construction. Minimum knee wall height should be 160 cm (63 inches):

Rooms TV socket Network connections

Upper floor: - Bedroom (light laminate) 1 2
- Child 1 (light laminate) 1 2
- Child 2 (light laminate) 1 2
- Office (light laminate) 1 2
- Bathroom (tiles) 0 0
- Hallway (light laminate) 0 2

Ground floor: - Guest WC (tiles) 0 0
- Kitchen + dining area (tiles) 1 4
- Living room (tiles) 2 4
- Small storage room (tiles) 0 0
- Hallway 0 1

Basement: - Laundry + ironing room (nonwoven flooring) 1 0
- Tool cellar (tiles) 1 2
- Storage room (tiles) 1 0
- Heating + central control room (tiles)0 2
- Hallway (tiles) 0 2

Equipment:
- Integrated radio in the kitchen + 2 ceiling speakers (controlled via AVR with zone 2?)
- Home automation (heating, electricity, roller shutters) using KNX
- Electric flush-mounted roller shutters (completely invisible from both inside and outside but must remain accessible)
- LED ceiling lights
- Geothermal heating?
- Floor-to-ceiling windows
- Underfloor heating
- KfW 70 energy standard
- Fireplace
- Large floor-level shower at least 100 x 100 cm (39 x 39 inches) on the upper floor
- Standard floor-level shower on the ground floor
- Corner bathtub
- Network cabling centralized in a small network cabinet with patch panel in the basement
- Double garage

Outdoor features:
- Spotlights under the roof overhang linked to motion sensors (garden side) + switchable manually via light switches
- Spotlights at the entrance area switchable via light switches

As mentioned, these are just my initial thoughts. Everything not mentioned here should or can be standard (if there is such a thing as standard).

If what I’m thinking about is completely off or if you have feedback I was hoping for, just let me know ;-)
Cascada6 Feb 2015 10:33
G-Star1988 schrieb:
So the 145m² (1560 sq ft) does not include the basement.

You’re right about the study room—it might be better to put it in the basement after all. Although that room is also meant for our pet. Well, that will have to be decided based on the plot and the floor plan.

There are many network outlets (although I think these are still too few) because they’re needed for so many things. There’s already enough radiation everywhere, so you want to avoid Wi-Fi as much as possible. And who wants to transfer data at 300 Mbit when you can do it at 1000 Mbit via cable? ;-) Besides, movies and such run more smoothly over wired connections. Just in the future living room, I’ll need 3 network connections because of the AV receiver, multimedia receiver, and TV, plus one switch.

I also estimated the costs at around 400,000 € (about $430,000), glad you roughly agree with that ;-)

Powerline adapters are also available with 1000 Mbit/s (1 Gbps) ;-)

And 400,000 € (about $430,000), but that’s without the land and other surprises. An expert builder will surely be able to provide more precise information and will probably chime in at some point...
Bautraum20156 Feb 2015 10:43
I would also say that it STARTS at 400k. But since you are still in the planning phase, it’s a good time to explore options and gather information. The issue with radiation makes sense to me. Much more attention should actually be paid to that.
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G-Star1988
6 Feb 2015 10:58
Cascada schrieb:
Powerline is already available with 1000Mbit/s ;-)
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In my opinion, powerline is more of a temporary solution ;-) and it’s better to have one extra outlet than to regret later and say, “Ah, I should have.” Hehe
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G-Star1988
6 Feb 2015 11:02
Bautraum2015 schrieb:
I would also say that it STARTS at 400k. But since you are still in the planning phase, it's a good time to ask around and gather information.
The issue with radiation makes sense to me. It should actually be given much more attention.

exactly 😉
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Bauexperte
6 Feb 2015 11:07
Hello,
Cascada schrieb:

Bauexperte will surely be able to provide more precise information and will probably respond at some point...
Yes and no 😀

EUR 400 is a good estimate, although I believe the original poster might manage with less, since this is Lower Saxony. However, it’s pointless to make a detailed calculation because by the time the original poster plans to build, prices will likely have changed significantly, and the 2017 Energy Saving Ordinance (EnEV) will also apply. Who knows what surprises the policymakers at the green table might come up with by then 😉

Regards, Bauexperte
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G-Star1988
6 Feb 2015 11:28
Thank you all very much for your feedback. That’s enough for now. As soon as things become more concrete, I will definitely get back to you. In the meantime, I’ll just continue reading quietly in the forum ^^ 😀