Hello!
Apparently, our floor plan, as we originally wanted it, is causing some practical issues.
We are planning a prefab house (9.42 x 9.42 meters (31 x 31 feet)) with a gable roof, knee wall height 1.60 meters (5 ft 3 in), and roof pitch of 25 degrees. At our request, the entrance is planned on the eaves side on the north.
We are actually happy with the ground floor. Our main priorities on the ground floor were an open living-dining area, a guest/workroom, and a guest toilet with shower. The utility room has a window that is located under the carport.
Now about the upper floor, which I like but is causing problems:
1. The door of the north-facing children's room opens against the window. Should it open into the room? Or open outward into the hallway, like the bedroom door is planned (why is it like that there…)?
2. The window in the master bedroom on the upper floor (south side) is planned without a roller blind. This is because a distance of 2.05 meters (6 ft 9 in) to the side wall with the roof slope must be maintained for a roller blind. In the current plan (open walk-in closet) the window could still be moved slightly. However, I wanted to close off the wall to the walk-in closet so that it is accessible from the hallway. According to my calculations, to fit the window there, the walk-in closet would have to be reduced by about 70 cm (28 inches), which is hardly possible.
Do you have any ideas for redesigns that could help us here?
Apparently, our floor plan, as we originally wanted it, is causing some practical issues.
We are planning a prefab house (9.42 x 9.42 meters (31 x 31 feet)) with a gable roof, knee wall height 1.60 meters (5 ft 3 in), and roof pitch of 25 degrees. At our request, the entrance is planned on the eaves side on the north.
We are actually happy with the ground floor. Our main priorities on the ground floor were an open living-dining area, a guest/workroom, and a guest toilet with shower. The utility room has a window that is located under the carport.
Now about the upper floor, which I like but is causing problems:
1. The door of the north-facing children's room opens against the window. Should it open into the room? Or open outward into the hallway, like the bedroom door is planned (why is it like that there…)?
2. The window in the master bedroom on the upper floor (south side) is planned without a roller blind. This is because a distance of 2.05 meters (6 ft 9 in) to the side wall with the roof slope must be maintained for a roller blind. In the current plan (open walk-in closet) the window could still be moved slightly. However, I wanted to close off the wall to the walk-in closet so that it is accessible from the hallway. According to my calculations, to fit the window there, the walk-in closet would have to be reduced by about 70 cm (28 inches), which is hardly possible.
Do you have any ideas for redesigns that could help us here?
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pagoni202021 Sep 2020 11:48LuiseRadiese schrieb:
Thank you, this helps me a lot. I filled in what I knew right away. I didn’t realize, for example, that I needed to have information about the heating system ready to get advice on the floor plan. It may be that I am inexperienced and uninformed in other building-related topics, including heating, but originally I didn’t feel the need for advice in that area.
I assumed that we had handed everything over to professionals. Maybe that’s frowned upon or even a mistake, but I simply can't do it myself. Sorry! You don’t need to apologize and haven’t done anything wrong.
Find out which information is helpful to you and which isn’t, and keep asking your questions or sharing your issues in your own way. I would find it unfortunate if anyone hesitated to do so because they fear a harsh response.
No one here has more rights than you or anyone else, so ask questions in whatever way feels natural to you!
Tamstar schrieb:
That’s why the responses are a bit blunt right now. On one hand, it’s understandable because the most basic pinned posts are often not read, and the same things have to be requested repeatedly. Exactly.
Tamstar schrieb:
The questionnaire is quite poorly filled out, and the cost estimate is completely missing. That as well.
LuiseRadiese schrieb:
I didn’t realize I needed to have information about the heating system ready, for example, in order to get advice on the floor plan. That’s not stated anywhere. It’s only important because of the space requirements.
LuiseRadiese schrieb:
Do you think an air-to-air heat pump is a bad idea? That’s the question I mean—you should discuss it in a separate thread.
Otherwise, too many details are missing, and I refer you again to the note in #26.
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Nice-Nofret21 Sep 2020 13:02The existing site is going to be filled in everywhere and to that extent? Am I understanding this correctly? How does that come about?
Go back to your structural engineer and have them propose more suitable floor plans. Your 'consultants' seem to be more salespeople than construction professionals; so you need to be extra careful.
Go back to your structural engineer and have them propose more suitable floor plans. Your 'consultants' seem to be more salespeople than construction professionals; so you need to be extra careful.
Pinky0301 schrieb:
@11ant made a good point: instead of adding a knee wall to a townhouse, it’s better to start with a different house type (let’s call it a 1.5-story house). You cannot simply “add” a knee wall to a townhouse—you can only cut off the top two corners to lower the eaves from the attic to the upper floor and rename the stubs of the former straight walls as knee walls. But this is clearly nonsense pushed by salespeople.
I also miss a clarification on why this was done: height restrictions from the development plan or budget constraints from the client—and was she really only presented with one initial floor plan (and of all things, a townhouse floor plan, when every builder also offers a “country house” style)?
The depicted terrain modification makes me question the professionalism involved. It seems excessive and does not appear to serve any clear purpose.
Regarding the heat pump: 0. it doesn’t matter who introduced it here, but it does make sense to discuss fundamental heating technology questions in a separate thread (if the existing ones are not enough); 1. the heating system and the house need to be considered together, meaning you can’t focus solely on an “optimal” heating system while changing the energy efficiency rating of the house (energy saving regulations, KfW55, KfW40, low energy, passive) without reconsidering that decision; 2. advice on this topic should only come from experienced professionals: general contractors—especially prefab builders—generally don’t provide neutral advice, and among the major players in solid construction, they are mostly looking out for their volume-based supplier bonuses.
@LuiseRadiese: we’re not saying this to make you feel bad. Like tens of thousands of other non-professionals, you simply overlooked that the experts you consulted are mostly cunning, experienced tricksters whose apparent dedication to your building dream isn’t sincere. But now you have found this self-help group of many other non-professionals who are currently mastering or have already survived a similar situation.
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LuiseRadiese21 Sep 2020 15:18Nice-Nofret schrieb:
The existing site is going to be filled in everywhere and so much? Am I understanding this correctly? How does that come about?
Go back to your building contractor and have them propose more suitable floor plans. Your ‘advisors’ seem to be more salespeople than construction professionals; you need to be extra careful. This is the elevation profile for our plot from the development plan for the new residential area. I have nothing to do with it and no influence over it. It was also not known when the land was purchased, but you either wanted this plot or you didn’t. We have to work with it as it is.
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