ᐅ Improving the Floor Plan – How to Do It?

Created on: 20 Sep 2020 21:50
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LuiseRadiese
Hello!
Apparently, our floor plan, as we originally wanted it, is causing some practical issues.
We are planning a prefab house (9.42 x 9.42 meters (31 x 31 feet)) with a gable roof, knee wall height 1.60 meters (5 ft 3 in), and roof pitch of 25 degrees. At our request, the entrance is planned on the eaves side on the north.
We are actually happy with the ground floor. Our main priorities on the ground floor were an open living-dining area, a guest/workroom, and a guest toilet with shower. The utility room has a window that is located under the carport.

Now about the upper floor, which I like but is causing problems:

1. The door of the north-facing children's room opens against the window. Should it open into the room? Or open outward into the hallway, like the bedroom door is planned (why is it like that there…)?

2. The window in the master bedroom on the upper floor (south side) is planned without a roller blind. This is because a distance of 2.05 meters (6 ft 9 in) to the side wall with the roof slope must be maintained for a roller blind. In the current plan (open walk-in closet) the window could still be moved slightly. However, I wanted to close off the wall to the walk-in closet so that it is accessible from the hallway. According to my calculations, to fit the window there, the walk-in closet would have to be reduced by about 70 cm (28 inches), which is hardly possible.

Do you have any ideas for redesigns that could help us here?

Floor plan of an apartment: large living/dining area, kitchen, workspace, hallway, utility room, guest toilet/shower.


Floor plan of the upper floor: two children's rooms, master bedroom, walk-in closet, bathroom, gallery, stairs.
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LuiseRadiese
20 Sep 2020 23:03
Wintersonne schrieb:

The bedrooms will be quite dark, and I would also make the windows wider in the ground floor living/dining area.
Are no windows possible at all with a knee wall of 1.60 m (5 feet 3 inches)? How much space do you have up to the ring beam? Even narrow windows would make a big difference (although they probably wouldn’t work with a roller shutter box).
In the end, are roof windows the only option?
With the size of the building, do we have a ring beam? Or do you just mean the point where the roof meets the wall?
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LuiseRadiese
20 Sep 2020 23:08
face26 schrieb:

Hi,

try furnishing it with realistic furniture.
I think it will be a tight fit in a few spots.
Where is the 2m (6 ft 7 in) line? I read something about a knee wall height of 1.6m (5 ft 3 in). Then the square meters wouldn’t add up either.
You don’t seem to like much natural light, do you?
A bit stingy with the windows?
How wide and how deep is the bedroom?

Should the 2m (6 ft 7 in) line be indicated somewhere or do I have to calculate it?
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LuiseRadiese
20 Sep 2020 23:28
LuiseRadiese schrieb:

Should the 2m (6 ft 7 in) line be marked somewhere, or do I need to calculate it myself?
I tried to calculate it. It should be about 86cm (34 inches) from the wall with the knee wall.
11ant20 Sep 2020 23:34
The house is fundamentally flawed in its design; it is simply too small to accommodate the desired floor plan differentiation. A functional house design with a knee wall upper floor (kniestock-OG) can only be developed from a design with a sloped roof attic (schrägdach-DG). However, in this case, no "one-and-a-half-story" design with the insertion or raising of the knee wall was used as the basis. Instead, a "town villa" design was taken, and its otherwise full-height upper floor walls were cut off at the eaves side to create the knee wall, which, due to its nature, unfortunately offers very little chance of success.

Adding a roller shutter box to the bedroom window by shifting it out of the sloped cutout would be only somewhat practical: as a "second escape route," the roller shutter would need to be operable manually by hand crank.
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LuiseRadiese
20 Sep 2020 23:38
11ant schrieb:

The house is fundamentally designed incorrectly; it is simply too small for the desired floor plan differentiation. A functional design with a knee wall upper floor (kniestock-OG) can only be developed from a design with a pitched roof attic (Schrägdach-DG). However, here no "one-and-a-half-story" design with insertion or raising of the knee wall was chosen as a basis. Instead – and this unfortunately has very little chance of success in principle – a "town villa" design had its usually straight upper floor walls on all sides "cut off" on the eaves side to create the knee wall.
Adding a roller shutter box to the bedroom window by shifting it out of the sloping section would be only somewhat practical: as a "second emergency exit," the roller shutter would have to be operable with a manual crank.

Thank you for your assessment. We also feel that something is not quite right here. The issue of the second emergency exit could be solved through the bathroom, which makes more sense anyway since a) the street is there and b) a roller shutter is not needed there in any case.
Everything else still remains problematic, though.
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LuiseRadiese
20 Sep 2020 23:45
11ant schrieb:

The house design is fundamentally flawed; it is simply too small for the desired floor plan differentiation. A functional design with a knee wall upper floor (knee wall attic) can only be developed from a house design with a sloped roof attic. However, in this case, no "one-and-a-half-story" design with insertion or raising of the knee wall was used as a basis. Instead, and for structural reasons this has very little chance of success, a "town villa" design was adapted by cutting the otherwise fully vertical walls of the upper floor on the eaves side down to the knee wall height.
Adding a roller shutter box to the bedroom window by shifting it out of the sloped section would be only partly practical: as a second emergency exit, the roller shutter would have to be operable by hand crank.

So, would the simplest and best solution be to rotate the roof back, am I understanding this correctly?