Hello!
Apparently, our floor plan, as we originally wanted it, is causing some practical issues.
We are planning a prefab house (9.42 x 9.42 meters (31 x 31 feet)) with a gable roof, knee wall height 1.60 meters (5 ft 3 in), and roof pitch of 25 degrees. At our request, the entrance is planned on the eaves side on the north.
We are actually happy with the ground floor. Our main priorities on the ground floor were an open living-dining area, a guest/workroom, and a guest toilet with shower. The utility room has a window that is located under the carport.
Now about the upper floor, which I like but is causing problems:
1. The door of the north-facing children's room opens against the window. Should it open into the room? Or open outward into the hallway, like the bedroom door is planned (why is it like that there…)?
2. The window in the master bedroom on the upper floor (south side) is planned without a roller blind. This is because a distance of 2.05 meters (6 ft 9 in) to the side wall with the roof slope must be maintained for a roller blind. In the current plan (open walk-in closet) the window could still be moved slightly. However, I wanted to close off the wall to the walk-in closet so that it is accessible from the hallway. According to my calculations, to fit the window there, the walk-in closet would have to be reduced by about 70 cm (28 inches), which is hardly possible.
Do you have any ideas for redesigns that could help us here?
Apparently, our floor plan, as we originally wanted it, is causing some practical issues.
We are planning a prefab house (9.42 x 9.42 meters (31 x 31 feet)) with a gable roof, knee wall height 1.60 meters (5 ft 3 in), and roof pitch of 25 degrees. At our request, the entrance is planned on the eaves side on the north.
We are actually happy with the ground floor. Our main priorities on the ground floor were an open living-dining area, a guest/workroom, and a guest toilet with shower. The utility room has a window that is located under the carport.
Now about the upper floor, which I like but is causing problems:
1. The door of the north-facing children's room opens against the window. Should it open into the room? Or open outward into the hallway, like the bedroom door is planned (why is it like that there…)?
2. The window in the master bedroom on the upper floor (south side) is planned without a roller blind. This is because a distance of 2.05 meters (6 ft 9 in) to the side wall with the roof slope must be maintained for a roller blind. In the current plan (open walk-in closet) the window could still be moved slightly. However, I wanted to close off the wall to the walk-in closet so that it is accessible from the hallway. According to my calculations, to fit the window there, the walk-in closet would have to be reduced by about 70 cm (28 inches), which is hardly possible.
Do you have any ideas for redesigns that could help us here?
I have quickly gone through everything and, no offense intended, it seems there is still a lot of need for clarification and action. In my opinion, the shown floor plan is not suitable at all in its current state. Have you considered storage and utility spaces? The walk-in closet appears very small. Where are all the clothes going to go? Have you already included furniture drawn to scale?
I would take a few steps back or even start over...
I would take a few steps back or even start over...
LuiseRadiese schrieb:
This should be it. This is a section from the legend and textual regulations; at least the drawing part of the plan is missing.
LuiseRadiese schrieb:
Two full stories are allowed, so a townhouse-style villa would also be possible, but it was too expensive and unnecessary for us. Why too expensive? I can’t follow the idea of “unnecessary” here. Especially in the XS size (edge length 950) the “townhouse villa” is the standard model for the homebuilder.
Wintersonne schrieb:
With a pitched roof, the insulation, installing the vapor barrier, possibly wood fiber boards, drywall, scaffolding for painting the high ceilings, ... that all also costs quite a bit. Have you compared that to a concrete ceiling? And in your opinion, would that come free with a concrete ceiling?
(Aside from the fact that a townhouse villa would only have a concrete ceiling between the upper floor and the attic to a limited extent.)
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Wintersonne21 Sep 2020 23:0911ant schrieb:
And in your opinion, would that be free with a concrete slab?
(not to mention that a city villa would only have a concrete slab between the upper floor and the attic to a limited extent)If it’s a concrete slab, then in our case: insulation is placed on top of the slab = faster installation, no drywall on the ceiling, no wood fiber boards/pavatex, but roof sheathingWintersonne schrieb:
If it’s a concrete ceiling, then with us: the insulation is placed directly on the ceiling = faster installation, no drywall on the ceiling, no wood fiber boards/pavatex, but roof sheathing So, you meant to point out that by lowering the roof structure into the upper floor, the issue arises of practically having to include the attic within the thermal envelope (?)
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LuiseRadiese22 Sep 2020 07:05So, I was actually surprised to hear that a single-family house of 145 m² (1,560 sq ft) is considered "XS." A town villa—or a basement for extra storage—would simply have cost an additional 30,000 euros. And with an investment of just under half a million, the budget is simply exhausted at some point.
Of course, it would be great to have EVERYTHING: large rooms, plenty of storage space, natural light, high ceilings, a second bathroom upstairs... but that’s just not possible. And I can hardly kick a child out to make room.
Basically, you’ve now explained to me in more or less polite terms what I already knew: the floor plan isn’t good yet. I should look for another one. And now?
Oh, and I have no idea either. But I already knew that before. Neither about floor plan design, nor heating technology, energy efficiency, or civil engineering.
I’m not a step closer to a solution; instead, I feel much more uncertain and demotivated.
Of course, it would be great to have EVERYTHING: large rooms, plenty of storage space, natural light, high ceilings, a second bathroom upstairs... but that’s just not possible. And I can hardly kick a child out to make room.
Basically, you’ve now explained to me in more or less polite terms what I already knew: the floor plan isn’t good yet. I should look for another one. And now?
Oh, and I have no idea either. But I already knew that before. Neither about floor plan design, nor heating technology, energy efficiency, or civil engineering.
I’m not a step closer to a solution; instead, I feel much more uncertain and demotivated.
Sorry, but you seem to like playing the victim here. Some points were directly addressed in this thread, but there was nothing unfriendly. You received several suggestions regarding your floor plan, but you just didn’t like them. Even more importantly, the floor plan starts with the plot of land. However, your attitude seems to be "let’s just do it now, and if it doesn’t work, we’ll redo it later." You won’t get much support here with that approach, as most people don’t want to spend time thinking about something only to have to redo it for no reason.
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