ᐅ How much does a good new heat pump typically cost? Looking for experiences and insights!

Created on: 23 Feb 2021 09:57
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Hi everyone, we are currently planning our housebuild quite intensively, and when it comes to choosing a heating system, we are considering using a heat pump. We have heard from friends that, in the long run, it can be more cost-effective because heating costs are reduced. However, these friends do not have one themselves yet; they are just thinking about it. What is your opinion on this? What should we consider? Would you recommend it? We are also thinking of getting advice soon from Vaillant, as they apparently have pretty good customer service. In general, I would appreciate any tips on this topic. Thanks in advance!
Mycraft28 Feb 2021 13:44
You can interpret it both ways. Not just as a question but also as a suggestion. The intention wasn’t immediately clear, but now you have clarified what you meant.
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3 Mar 2021 10:59
nordanney schrieb:

Start by reading through the forum first. You’re asking a very general question like "Is the red car good and cheap because my friends said so?"

Low heating costs are not due to a single feature; many other factors also play a role, such as the building envelope, heating system design, underfloor heating or radiators, and personal usage habits.

A fuel-efficient 1.0-liter gasoline engine still consumes a lot when installed in a truck ;-)

Okay, that wasn’t clear to me. But yes, I’m still quite inexperienced in that area. I’ll see what else I can find about it in the forum.
lesmue79 schrieb:

1.) If it’s financially possible, go for a ground-source heat pump... Unless other factors prevent it, such as soil conditions on the property, regulations regarding groundwater, or the general contractor opposing it if the house is to be built by the GC.

2.) An air-source heat pump if option 1 isn’t feasible due to the various reasons. Or if the house has a low heating demand and/or in combination with a photovoltaic system. Although a photovoltaic system is generally always a good idea, except if poorly planned and implemented.

3.) Generally, there are no bad heat pumps (whether air, ground, or water source), only poorly designed houses or hydraulics.

4.) The exception is if it’s not a very well-insulated passive house. Then never accept so-called air-to-air heat pumps or so-called comfort-air heating or whatever heating system they market.

THANK YOU! That’s a really helpful overview. I’ll see if a ground-source heat pump fits into the budget and if the building conditions support it. What makes this option so special?
Daniel-Sp schrieb:

And no exhaust air heat pump either!
cip&ciop schrieb:

First of all, I want to say that you can’t give general prices for the different options because it always depends on the circumstances. In principle, ground-source heat pumps are more cost-effective in the medium to long term. If that option is not feasible for you, I recommend an air-to-water heat pump combined with a photovoltaic system.

Okay, thanks! The long-term aspect is actually what interests me most. We prefer to invest a little more initially if we can save something in the long run. Do you yourself heat with this system?
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nordanney
3 Mar 2021 11:07
trx_type schrieb:

I am mostly interested in the long-term aspect. We prefer to invest a bit more upfront if it means saving money over time.
... and if you have some basic DIY skills or can find a decent installer, you might want to look into "Geisha" online. It is a Panasonic monoblock unit with a very good cost-performance ratio. While it’s not as efficient as geothermal, you as a layperson can replace the heat pump yourself in one or two hours if it fails in 5 or 10 years. It would cost you at most around 3,000 euros for the heat pump.
Tolentino3 Mar 2021 11:10
I believe that, at least in Berlin, this is generally not allowed. Doesn't it have to be done by a heating engineer who is officially registered somewhere?
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T_im_Norden
3 Mar 2021 12:39
Since no work on the refrigeration circuit is required, this is possible; however, those who want to be on the safe side should choose HB. But Geisha should only be installed by someone who has studied the topic thoroughly, as it also requires proper hydraulic design and planning of underfloor heating and domestic hot water.
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nordanney
3 Mar 2021 13:50
T_im_Norden schrieb:

But Geisha should only be installed by someone who has thoroughly researched it, as it requires proper hydraulics, underfloor heating, and domestic hot water planning.
You should replace Geisha with any heat pump and someone with a heating engineer ;-)

The DIY builder puts more thought into the hydraulics and design of the underfloor heating than 90% of the heating professionals. LOL

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