ᐅ How much additional cost is expected based on the structural engineer’s calculations?

11ant schrieb:

And just imagine how frustrated I am now. At first, I was glad that you finally responded at all, but then your reply was so brief—only addressing my last question, and even then only partially. That doesn’t deserve the effort I put into helping you thoroughly!

We haven’t gained an iota of clarity. From your initial post, we know that the geological assessment of the site hasn’t been considered yet. But what the land’s elevation profile means for the possibility of a basement remains unclear. Also, you haven’t even begun to explain the two oddities: first, this mix of suppliers from different categories, and second, how you set things in motion apparently knowing only three companies.

I can imagine why you started without professional advice. You probably didn’t hire an architect because many prospective homeowners believe an architect costs as much as a garage and that they can draw up floor plans themselves or just take them from the internet. And although there are consultants like me, they are not always independent, as many also represent prefab home companies. However, your plot has shown that skipping an architect is a cost-saving attempt that backfires completely; I have already mentioned in several posts that an architect pays for itself and is definitely not a luxury.

I even referred to a specific planning office in my post #40 that follows a similar concept to mine and can also provide architectural services directly. Additionally, I encouraged you to start your own thread for your project to accelerate the support you could get. So far, no response and no action from you in that direction. You should take advantage of these missed opportunities, then you can count on my help again.

Hello,

sorry for my brief replies, but I’m usually very busy and unfortunately have no knowledge about construction. I had trusted the company, but my trust is slowly fading because the situation turned out even worse than expected... I spoke with the site manager, and he said that since we are building in seismic zone 3, we need a waterproof concrete basement ("white tank"), and that we are not allowed to build any other kind of basement. The problem is that the soil assessment was done during the planning phase, and we didn’t know beforehand that we had “difficult ground.” Additional costs are now around 30,000 euros! And of course, we do have an architect included in the house price for 8,000 euros, but even he couldn’t have known this without a soil report.

We chose H&H because we wanted a stone-on-stone build. We visited the Massa Haus show home and agreed that it should not be a prefabricated house—plus, it would have been significantly more expensive, as would the offer from Heinz von Heiden.

I would like to start my own thread about our project, but I need to get familiar with how this forum works first.

Why should the architect have known beforehand that the soil conditions would be difficult? Without a soil report, he couldn’t have known. He did request a soil report, but by then the contract with the builder was already signed.

Best regards

The fact that the house is located in seismic zone 3 is something even you should have known; the architect must be aware of this.

Skip the basement. This won't be the last time you end up paying extra because of it.

Did you not receive a list of requirements for the fixed price? I remember that the nationwide providers in Germany gave us such lists, specifying which wind load, snow load, and seismic zone are required.

It is almost certainly stated in the contract. The general contractor would be crazy not to clearly define this in the agreement.

Indirectly, you have at least confirmed that besides this strange provider, you only know Gabrieles Lieblingsheinz and a shell construction company—which is dangerously few options for someone signing expensive contracts. You still haven’t answered my question about whether the basement is actually required due to the slope of the site (maybe because I didn’t ask it in German as a foreign language???).

Lauralila88 schrieb:

and of course we have an architect, included in the house price with 8000 euros, but he couldn’t know this without a geotechnical survey either.

xMisterDx schrieb:

That the house is located in seismic zone 3, even you could have known, the architect must know that.

Eight thousand is a lot of money just for an “““architect””” (note the triple quotation marks) who more or less just places a floor plan on the site plan, with elevations and a section added, but only pictures, WITHOUT the actual basis. The fact that phase 1 of the services is at the very beginning was not made up by some joker. With a real architect contract, this kind of sloppiness would be a case for the architect’s professional liability insurance. So what about your right of withdrawal now? You can’t keep delaying this indefinitely! Now quickly go to the lawyer—I already mentioned her in my post #40!

Lauralila88 schrieb:

I would like to create my own thread with our project, but for that I need to get informed here first.

In the same post, I also linked the questionnaire for you—you can fill it out even without prior knowledge.

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We have paid 9,000 net for a "genuine" architect up to the construction planning stage, just for reference!