ᐅ How many electrical outlets do you usually have? Do we need to install more?

Created on: 14 Jun 2015 13:30
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Legurit
Hello everyone,

We will soon have a meeting with the electrician (I believe initially to discuss penetrations through the precast concrete slab (?)). Nevertheless, we wanted to address the topic of electrical outlets.

According to our building specification, we have a total of about 85 outlets (give or take) for approximately 190 m² (2045 sq ft).
In the children's rooms (~15 m² / 161 sq ft), for example, there are 7 outlets (1 single, 3 double) plus one outlet for telephone (LAN) and one for TV. Is that sufficient? I think my childhood bedroom only had 3 outlets (which was not ideal).

The living room has 12 outlets (plus telephone and TV), the kitchen 10 (including appliance connections), the dining area separately another 8, the bathrooms have two double outlets, and so on.
What do you usually have plugged in the living room? TV, media player, speakers, telephone, 2 cabinets with lighting, a floor lamp, 2 laptop chargers, a phone charging, vacuum cleaner, music system… you can easily reach 12 without much effort.

How much does an additional outlet typically cost? I’ve seen a wide range from €50 to €150.

Thanks for your input,
Best regards
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Sebastian79
14 Jun 2015 20:30
Network? You always need it everywhere – at least a double outlet in every room and hallway, so you’re already over 30, then some rooms need more, plus the garage/carport and terrace/garden.

You quickly end up with 44. Also, I hate Wi-Fi but unfortunately still need it...
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ypg
14 Jun 2015 21:46
Around 80 sockets are too few! But I tend not to exaggerate.
BeHaElJa schrieb:
In the children's rooms (~15 m² (160 ft²)) there are, for example, 7 sockets (1 single, 3 double)

In my opinion, one socket is enough for a PC with printer and monitor, using a triple socket adapter. Additionally, you should consider table lamps (bedside, desk, possibly floor lamp). Also, in each corner, 1 to 2 sockets... @Jochen104 already said: children’s rooms need to be flexible.
BeHaElJa schrieb:
The living room has 12 sockets (+ telephone and TV)

That seems about right.
BeHaElJa schrieb:
The kitchen has 10 (including appliance connections)

Depends on the appliances: stove, oven, extractor hood, kitchen island, refrigerator, steam oven, coffee machine, kettle, multifunctional kitchen appliances... and then 2 sockets on the walls for work areas. I’d say: when I take out my blender, and I don’t use many technical devices simultaneously, it should still be possible to plug it in at various spots flexibly.
BeHaElJa schrieb:
2 laptop chargers, phone charging, vacuum cleaner,

Do you have that in the living room? I would provide a range of sockets at working height in the utility room for charging all kinds of batteries (window cleaner, pressure washer, lawn mower, phone battery, handheld vacuum, etc.).

For vacuuming, use the work area sockets, which ideally should not be planned directly under light switches. Note: every room is usually planned with such a socket, even if it’s not really needed there. We removed almost all of them because having a few in central spots is enough for us.
BeHaElJa schrieb:
How much does an additional socket cost?

Discuss that with your electrician – they will probably be cheaper than your general contractor.
BeHaElJa schrieb:
While I’m asking: is one ceiling outlet enough for, say, the children’s rooms, or should you have two, or maybe one on the wall?

We planned several wall outlets for spotlights and indirect lighting, including in the bathroom as accent lighting (unfortunately not finished yet).

There is a good online guide explaining the process: lights on, lights off, with symbols explained and color-coded for outlets, sockets, and light switches. I had it once; I’ll look it up.

Regards, Yvonne

Edit: LAN and satellite connections in every living and bedroom
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kbt09
14 Jun 2015 21:57
85 outlets for 190 sqm (2,045 sq ft) seems very low to me.

In my newly built 3-room rental apartment with 66 sqm (710 sq ft), I installed the following according to my needs:
  • Approximately 45 power outlets in the living room, study, bedroom, bathroom, hallway, and storage room, including one at each window for Christmas lights or a small decorative lamp. In every room, at least one outlet in each corner, often double sockets. All rooms have LAN and TV connections (except the bathroom and storage room).
  • In the kitchen (8 sqm / 86 sq ft), about 13 outlets plus 3 separately fused outlets for the dishwasher, oven (I recommend at least 2 of this type since cooking habits may change in the future — just think about steam ovens), and stove connection.
  • Ceiling light outlets were installed according to the planned furniture layout.
  • Some outlets or ceiling outlets are linked with two-way switches, allowing them to be turned on or off from different places, e.g., the bedroom, kitchen, and living room.
  • The hallway light is operated by a motion sensor.
  • For the terrace, I installed 4 additional outlets, a TV socket (for washing machine or similar), a ceiling outlet in the covered part of the terrace, 2 switches for lights and outlets, and an additional switch that can also control the lights from inside.
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Legurit
14 Jun 2015 22:03
Thank you, Yvonne, the link should be helpful, I think.
We just made a rough plan for ourselves and ended up with a total of 85 power outlets (although arranged somewhat differently than in the floor plan) and 14 LAN ports. What we have significantly more of compared to the initial offer are light switches. We will now try to fit in a few more power outlets. I’m curious to hear what the electrician will say.
By the way: we currently have 25 outlets in our 70 sqm (750 sq ft) home—and we’re still managing fine (in the living room we just have multiple socket strips).
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ypg
14 Jun 2015 22:12
By the way, we have an outlet in the living room that is connected to a switch. This outlet powers a multi-socket with the TV, receiver, etc. When we go to bed, we simply turn off the switch by the door.
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Sebastian79
14 Jun 2015 22:14
We have planned that as well – better than a master-slave power strip.

I have found electrical planning to be the most demanding task so far. It’s completely different on the shell construction stage compared to the original plan...