Hello,
I am currently deciding on interior wall blocks. The options are blocks with a strength class of 10 or 12 (depending on thickness) and blocks with a strength class of 8. The latter has a slightly better U-value than those with higher strength class.
For interior walls, I think the U-value is less important, and factors like sound insulation and structural strength (we are in seismic zone 3) are more relevant. What do you think?
Have you considered this in your project, or was it not a concern for you? 🙂
I am currently deciding on interior wall blocks. The options are blocks with a strength class of 10 or 12 (depending on thickness) and blocks with a strength class of 8. The latter has a slightly better U-value than those with higher strength class.
For interior walls, I think the U-value is less important, and factors like sound insulation and structural strength (we are in seismic zone 3) are more relevant. What do you think?
Have you considered this in your project, or was it not a concern for you? 🙂
I understand what you mean, but don’t get me wrong... I didn’t want to make a big deal out of the whole story either.
We were basically forced to deal with it because the wrong pallet of bricks was mistakenly delivered, and then we were asked whether we wanted to keep them or have the correct ones sent. What would you do in that situation? Of course, you have to deal with it and compare.
I’m not trying to teach people their trade, although sometimes it might be necessary when I see how sloppy things can be on some construction sites. Trust is good, but checking is better—especially in construction!
We all pay a lot of money for the dream of owning a house, so it’s reasonable to expect not just a satisfactory result, but a very good one. Not perfect, but very good! That’s exactly what my clients expect from me in my job, no more and no less…
We were basically forced to deal with it because the wrong pallet of bricks was mistakenly delivered, and then we were asked whether we wanted to keep them or have the correct ones sent. What would you do in that situation? Of course, you have to deal with it and compare.
I’m not trying to teach people their trade, although sometimes it might be necessary when I see how sloppy things can be on some construction sites. Trust is good, but checking is better—especially in construction!
We all pay a lot of money for the dream of owning a house, so it’s reasonable to expect not just a satisfactory result, but a very good one. Not perfect, but very good! That’s exactly what my clients expect from me in my job, no more and no less…
Sebastian79 schrieb:
Don’t get me wrong, but you clearly have little knowledge on the subject, and you’re “informing” yourself through an online forum where you mostly receive answers from laypeople – and based on that, you make decisions about something that will stand for the next 100 years or more?
I find this trend increasingly “dangerous” – it gets worse when people try to explain the world to trained craftsmen.
The latter is not directed at you… just wanted to point that out.Sorry, but I’ve rarely read such nonsense. This is actually the standard excuse from those who can no longer fool or underestimate customers due to the flow of information on the internet. A reasonably intelligent and informed person can filter the information they get online well enough to determine whether it makes sense or is nonsense. Overall, the quality of information on the internet is much better than is often claimed.
In this case, for example, the heat transfer coefficient of interior walls is completely irrelevant because the temperature difference between two inside walls is practically zero anyway. It would be different if you wanted to build a walk-in refrigerator as a room. But that is so specialized that it should be mentioned, and you would need a completely different type of wall anyway.
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Sebastian7923 Jun 2016 16:41Yes, you are a special case who thinks everyone is always trying to fool others, and of course, you always expose it.
And of course, an informed and intelligent person can filter information – but this is not about opinions; it is about technical, specialized knowledge, which has nothing to do with intelligence or being informed. I would say: a classic own goal 😀.
I am still surprised that you built with a general contractor yourself 🙂.
@tabtab: Glad you understood that. But of course, that requires a certain basic level of intelligence 😉
And of course, an informed and intelligent person can filter information – but this is not about opinions; it is about technical, specialized knowledge, which has nothing to do with intelligence or being informed. I would say: a classic own goal 😀.
I am still surprised that you built with a general contractor yourself 🙂.
@tabtab: Glad you understood that. But of course, that requires a certain basic level of intelligence 😉
Sebastian79 schrieb:
And of course, a mature and intelligent person can filter information – but this is not about opinions, it’s about technical expertise, which has nothing to do with intelligence or maturity. I would say: classic own goal 😀.Sorry, this is simply nonsense and pure nitpicking. And of course, it is about technical expertise, which, strangely enough, everyone here was able to share correctly. So where exactly is the problem that the thread starter asked this question here instead of immediately going to an expensive expert?
Don’t get me wrong, but you obviously have little knowledge of the subject, you “inform” yourself in an internet forum where you get answers x & y mostly from laypeople – and then you make a decision that will stand for the next 100 years or more?What I’m getting at is this constant double standard and the constant claim that only professionals are professionals and have all the wisdom and are always right, while private individuals are essentially stupid and only talk nonsense.
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Sebastian7925 Jun 2016 09:25I never said that, but you are so blinded in your way of thinking – what is there left to discuss?
Just try it out once, you’ll really benefit from it 🙂.
Unfortunately, it’s clear you didn’t understand…
Just try it out once, you’ll really benefit from it 🙂.
Unfortunately, it’s clear you didn’t understand…
Honestly, Sebastian, I don’t understand your problem right now either.
If you’re already talking about basic intelligence (sorry, what nonsense!), then you should be able to accept other opinions as well. On the other hand, if you don’t believe in collective intelligence, what the heck are you doing as an IT specialist in a house-building forum? Your playground should actually be Computerbase ;-)
So, I think we all agree that none of us are experts. It’s about exchanging experiences. That’s what the forum thrives on and what everyone participating benefits from. Occasionally getting off your high horse and seeing the world from others’ perspectives is definitely not a mistake and is socially accepted…
And by the way, yesterday I noticed several defects from so-called “trained craftsmen” and professionals that were so obviously rough that it flushed my face with anger and confirmed to me that everything needs to be checked carefully. There are simply not only professionals in construction. Some of the self-proclaimed ones are (sorry) just ignorant people who either don’t think at all about what they’re doing or even act that way intentionally! I can’t logically explain certain results any other way.
If you’re already talking about basic intelligence (sorry, what nonsense!), then you should be able to accept other opinions as well. On the other hand, if you don’t believe in collective intelligence, what the heck are you doing as an IT specialist in a house-building forum? Your playground should actually be Computerbase ;-)
So, I think we all agree that none of us are experts. It’s about exchanging experiences. That’s what the forum thrives on and what everyone participating benefits from. Occasionally getting off your high horse and seeing the world from others’ perspectives is definitely not a mistake and is socially accepted…
And by the way, yesterday I noticed several defects from so-called “trained craftsmen” and professionals that were so obviously rough that it flushed my face with anger and confirmed to me that everything needs to be checked carefully. There are simply not only professionals in construction. Some of the self-proclaimed ones are (sorry) just ignorant people who either don’t think at all about what they’re doing or even act that way intentionally! I can’t logically explain certain results any other way.