ᐅ House Under Construction – Ideas for Details Such as Windows, Materials, and More
Created on: 5 Jan 2019 23:25
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SupaCriz
Good evening,
Our single-family house is currently under construction. We previously shared some initial designs here and received very valuable feedback.
We then made a few extra adjustments, revised the plans again, and are now finally building our house on a beautiful hillside plot.
The basement will have direct level access to the terrace – so we have planned the living, cooking, and dining area with a wide southeast-facing window front.
We are now focusing primarily on details such as the choice of window systems, external blinds (raffstore), and so on. At the moment, we are particularly interested in two window systems for which we have already received quotes. Perhaps you have some tips, experiences, or suggestions for us on this and other topics.
For the window front, we have the following options:
- JOSKO ONE system. This is an aluminum window system with an approximate frame visibility width of only 7cm (3 inches). The lift-and-slide door also has a similarly narrow frame, so it does not immediately catch the eye.
- Actual Cubic F Line combined with the "LOFT" all-glass system. Here, practically only the lift-and-slide door is framed with a visible wood-aluminum frame. The fixed windows next to it would be visually frameless and designed as "glass-to-glass joints."
- Drutex Iglu Energy uPVC windows: the most affordable option. However, skylights would have to be installed here because windows are not available in the full 2.80m (9 ft 2 inches) ceiling height.
While the first two options do not have a significant price difference (Actual being the cheaper one), the Drutex solution would be approximately €15,000 (about US $16,000) cheaper overall for all the windows in the house – but also with the least appealing material.
We would be very interested to hear your thoughts on this subject.
Thank you very much, and have a nice evening everyone!
Basement:
Ground floor:
Our single-family house is currently under construction. We previously shared some initial designs here and received very valuable feedback.
We then made a few extra adjustments, revised the plans again, and are now finally building our house on a beautiful hillside plot.
The basement will have direct level access to the terrace – so we have planned the living, cooking, and dining area with a wide southeast-facing window front.
We are now focusing primarily on details such as the choice of window systems, external blinds (raffstore), and so on. At the moment, we are particularly interested in two window systems for which we have already received quotes. Perhaps you have some tips, experiences, or suggestions for us on this and other topics.
For the window front, we have the following options:
- JOSKO ONE system. This is an aluminum window system with an approximate frame visibility width of only 7cm (3 inches). The lift-and-slide door also has a similarly narrow frame, so it does not immediately catch the eye.
- Actual Cubic F Line combined with the "LOFT" all-glass system. Here, practically only the lift-and-slide door is framed with a visible wood-aluminum frame. The fixed windows next to it would be visually frameless and designed as "glass-to-glass joints."
- Drutex Iglu Energy uPVC windows: the most affordable option. However, skylights would have to be installed here because windows are not available in the full 2.80m (9 ft 2 inches) ceiling height.
While the first two options do not have a significant price difference (Actual being the cheaper one), the Drutex solution would be approximately €15,000 (about US $16,000) cheaper overall for all the windows in the house – but also with the least appealing material.
We would be very interested to hear your thoughts on this subject.
Thank you very much, and have a nice evening everyone!
Basement:
Ground floor:
SupaCriz schrieb:
How the loft system is installed can be seen in the drawing attached. I meant how tightly it can actually be installed there. The drawing supports my concern: that the external thermal insulation composite system (ETICS) would only be finished after installing the elements. I would strongly recommend seeing the installation process live at a reference construction site before making a purchasing decision. Or better yet, reconsider it very carefully. Regarding the house’s architecture, I would consider such windows as “French shoes for Pomeranian feet” (i.e., not fitting well at all).
SupaCriz schrieb:
What do you mean by sun protection in the south being a luxury? I wrote, “not a luxury.”
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Hello @11ant We don’t have external thermal insulation composite systems (ETICS) except where absolutely necessary (such as waterproof concrete walls; possibly around windows/shutter boxes). Otherwise, the building is monolithic using Ytong blocks. Where exactly do you see the problem with that?
Regarding the external venetian blinds in the south: even this so-called "no luxury" option easily costs around 5000€ (about 5,500 USD). Would you still invest in them there, or would you do without sun protection?
Thanks and best regards!
Regarding the external venetian blinds in the south: even this so-called "no luxury" option easily costs around 5000€ (about 5,500 USD). Would you still invest in them there, or would you do without sun protection?
Thanks and best regards!
SupaCriz schrieb:
Where exactly do you see the problem? There is no problem, just that there is no installation clearance visible. This means the doors, along with the sliding tracks, must be positioned from the "front / outside" against the window reveal stop / screed first, and only then can the ETICS (in the drawing you can see an insulation board with a render finish) be applied as the final step. With vertical play in the tracks, other installation sequences would be possible. This gives me the impression that these components are intended for projects where all parties are experienced with such precise "microsurgery." If this cannot be assumed, it might result in some compromises to the finish—meaning you might have to fix it with foam filling and cover trims that significantly undermine the theoretical goal of "invisibility." Therefore, my advice is to make sure that the installation will theoretically succeed on the first attempt for those with average skills. Because I fear the answer is no; also involved trades might need additional training. This raises the question of whether the very last bit of apparent framelessness is worth it. Personally, I think windows that have to be somewhat dirty to avoid people bumping into them are not a good idea—better to have a small, symbolic frame as an indicator.
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