Hello everyone,
I need some advice on planning the garage for now. See the attachment.
Is a garage width of 5.51m (18 feet) too narrow?
What would be the optimal width?
Best regards,
Franze
I need some advice on planning the garage for now. See the attachment.
Is a garage width of 5.51m (18 feet) too narrow?
What would be the optimal width?
Best regards,
Franze
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FranzeFrancis24 Jan 2016 11:04Good morning,
the house was rotated because we initially planned it on a different plot, which is no longer an option due to its slope. Now, the living room, dining area (bay window), and terrace are on the south side.
A few answers regarding the upper floor, as there were some questions.
The bathroom/WC is 6.33 square meters (68 square feet); this is a children’s bathroom and will not include a bathtub.
The master bathroom is located downstairs, adjoining the bedroom. It is quite large, but we like the spaciousness.
Storage room: 1.80 x 3.50 meters (6 x 11.5 feet)
This room serves as a storage area, among other things, for winter clothes, vacuum cleaner, etc. We planned it mainly because we have no basement and might appreciate having this space in the future.
Bay window
We mainly liked the bay window for its aesthetic appeal. (Living room)
the house was rotated because we initially planned it on a different plot, which is no longer an option due to its slope. Now, the living room, dining area (bay window), and terrace are on the south side.
A few answers regarding the upper floor, as there were some questions.
The bathroom/WC is 6.33 square meters (68 square feet); this is a children’s bathroom and will not include a bathtub.
The master bathroom is located downstairs, adjoining the bedroom. It is quite large, but we like the spaciousness.
Storage room: 1.80 x 3.50 meters (6 x 11.5 feet)
This room serves as a storage area, among other things, for winter clothes, vacuum cleaner, etc. We planned it mainly because we have no basement and might appreciate having this space in the future.
Bay window
We mainly liked the bay window for its aesthetic appeal. (Living room)
I find the combination of bedroom, dressing room, and master bathroom—which then feels completely enclosed—very unfavorable. Especially since there is that unnecessary corridor in between.
What kind of roof will be installed there? Is the upper floor a full story, or are there sloped ceilings?
The kitchen/dining area layout should be redesigned as well. Above all, a table needs to be included to see if you can still easily access the terrace from the kitchen area (for dining outside in the summer evenings, barbecuing, etc.). Also, the main workspace in the kitchen is tucked into a small corner, with no space between the cooktop and the sink.
I think a lot of revisions are still needed here.
You could also plan the technical installations for the basement, as long as it is still intended. The house itself might be somewhat smaller for that purpose. The exterior basement stairs are also inconveniently located.
Simply mirroring a house and making only slight adjustments works well with very few plot layouts.
It would also be important to have a site plan with approximate measurements of the plot, or is the outline around the ground floor supposed to indicate the property boundaries?
What kind of roof will be installed there? Is the upper floor a full story, or are there sloped ceilings?
The kitchen/dining area layout should be redesigned as well. Above all, a table needs to be included to see if you can still easily access the terrace from the kitchen area (for dining outside in the summer evenings, barbecuing, etc.). Also, the main workspace in the kitchen is tucked into a small corner, with no space between the cooktop and the sink.
I think a lot of revisions are still needed here.
You could also plan the technical installations for the basement, as long as it is still intended. The house itself might be somewhat smaller for that purpose. The exterior basement stairs are also inconveniently located.
Simply mirroring a house and making only slight adjustments works well with very few plot layouts.
It would also be important to have a site plan with approximate measurements of the plot, or is the outline around the ground floor supposed to indicate the property boundaries?
I also think you should try furnishing the house. The master bedroom feels somewhat fragmented, and the adjacent hallway doesn't help. You might want to reconsider having a master bathroom that can only be accessed through the bedroom.
As mentioned before, the bay windows may look nice but don’t really add value at first glance and are a cost factor that can be cut if you’re working with a tight budget. 🙂
I like the kitchen, but as others have noted, I’m not sure the size is sufficient, and there isn’t much counter or storage space.
I think it’s good that you’ve planned a shower bathroom on the ground floor and included plenty of windows in the living area. By the way, I believe the door to the living room next to the stairs will likely be neglected and most people will end up using the other route through the kitchen (speaking from similar experience).
As mentioned before, the bay windows may look nice but don’t really add value at first glance and are a cost factor that can be cut if you’re working with a tight budget. 🙂
I like the kitchen, but as others have noted, I’m not sure the size is sufficient, and there isn’t much counter or storage space.
I think it’s good that you’ve planned a shower bathroom on the ground floor and included plenty of windows in the living area. By the way, I believe the door to the living room next to the stairs will likely be neglected and most people will end up using the other route through the kitchen (speaking from similar experience).
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Doc.Schnaggls25 Jan 2016 10:11Hello,
If I were you, I would seriously consider whether you really want to separate the "kitchen / dining" area from the living space with a double-wing sliding door in that wall.
Especially the 45° wall looks like a makeshift solution on this plan and will probably make the dining area toward the bay window seem too cramped, at least visually.
Please don’t misunderstand me — I’m generally a big fan of walls set at a 45° angle, but this solution doesn’t quite convince me.
We designed our entire living, dining, and kitchen area as an open plan (also in an L shape) and wouldn’t want it any other way.
It’s simply nice to be able to communicate across the rooms, and the openness also creates a very spacious feel.
With a good extractor hood or recirculating hood and, if necessary, a controlled ventilation system, cooking odors shouldn’t be a problem.
In my opinion, without this dividing wall, you would also enjoy your planned fireplace or tiled stove much more in the living room.
Regarding the garage: I find the door width of 5.01 m (without the frame) somewhat tight. Therefore, I would move the utility room either to the basement or to the rear end of the garage.
Even if it fits with your current cars, new cars rarely get smaller — so I wouldn’t create a space problem in the wrong place.
Best regards,
Dirk
If I were you, I would seriously consider whether you really want to separate the "kitchen / dining" area from the living space with a double-wing sliding door in that wall.
Especially the 45° wall looks like a makeshift solution on this plan and will probably make the dining area toward the bay window seem too cramped, at least visually.
Please don’t misunderstand me — I’m generally a big fan of walls set at a 45° angle, but this solution doesn’t quite convince me.
We designed our entire living, dining, and kitchen area as an open plan (also in an L shape) and wouldn’t want it any other way.
It’s simply nice to be able to communicate across the rooms, and the openness also creates a very spacious feel.
With a good extractor hood or recirculating hood and, if necessary, a controlled ventilation system, cooking odors shouldn’t be a problem.
In my opinion, without this dividing wall, you would also enjoy your planned fireplace or tiled stove much more in the living room.
Regarding the garage: I find the door width of 5.01 m (without the frame) somewhat tight. Therefore, I would move the utility room either to the basement or to the rear end of the garage.
Even if it fits with your current cars, new cars rarely get smaller — so I wouldn’t create a space problem in the wrong place.
Best regards,
Dirk
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FranzeFrancis25 Jan 2016 15:28Hello everyone,
thank you for your contributions. It’s enjoyable to read them and imagine your ideas.
Kitchen topic
Although we have less counter space on one side, the kitchen has an island measuring 100x200cm (40x79 inches) and a pantry separated by a wall and sliding door. This extends the kitchen worktop by 150cm (59 inches). This additional surface is used to store the bread slicer, Thermomix, coffee machine, and other kitchen appliances. When leaving the kitchen, the sliding door can be closed so that the appliances are “hidden.”
I don’t like the kitchen to look cluttered with stuff. I can imagine having one or two appliances on the island or something similar, but not more. :-)
The main work surface will then be the kitchen island. What I will change is to add a pull-out cabinet about 30cm (12 inches) wide between the sink and stove. That will provide even more workspace there.
Living/Dining
The reason we put a wall with a 45-degree angle between the living and dining areas is that I currently live in an open-plan apartment with a kitchen, dining room, and adjoining living room, and it bothers me when someone is working in the kitchen and I have to turn the TV volume up.
The dining area in the bay window is 4.32x2.50m (14x8 feet), then the angled wall starts. We’ve already tested in a show house that this space is enough for our 200x100cm (79x39 inches) table, benches, and chairs. The two window panels on one wall would be fixed glazing so you can go out to the left and right. There is a show home park near Poing, Munich, and we copied this idea from the company Bien & Zenker Concept Munich. We liked it.
The recess in the living room is planned purely for aesthetics. We know that it doesn’t add any practical space, just like the passage to the living room near the stairs. The sliding doors that run into the wall are there so we can keep the spaces open or close them for privacy.
It may happen that everything is closed later, but we want to keep this option open so we can avoid regretting not having done it.
Besides the practical aspects a room must have, we also like the visual appeal and spaciousness, which is why the rooms and the bedroom are quite large. We’ve found it annoying that bedrooms were so small at friends’ houses who built in the past couple of years. Bed, 60cm (24 inches) in front, and then a wall or wardrobe.
Right now, we often stay in the bedroom—whether just lying in bed on weekends chatting or talking in the evening.
Garage:
We have already clarified this with the builder. It will have a width of 6.40m (21 feet) for both vehicles. The utility room will be in the basement or at the back near the storage room.
thank you for your contributions. It’s enjoyable to read them and imagine your ideas.
Kitchen topic
Although we have less counter space on one side, the kitchen has an island measuring 100x200cm (40x79 inches) and a pantry separated by a wall and sliding door. This extends the kitchen worktop by 150cm (59 inches). This additional surface is used to store the bread slicer, Thermomix, coffee machine, and other kitchen appliances. When leaving the kitchen, the sliding door can be closed so that the appliances are “hidden.”
I don’t like the kitchen to look cluttered with stuff. I can imagine having one or two appliances on the island or something similar, but not more. :-)
The main work surface will then be the kitchen island. What I will change is to add a pull-out cabinet about 30cm (12 inches) wide between the sink and stove. That will provide even more workspace there.
Living/Dining
The reason we put a wall with a 45-degree angle between the living and dining areas is that I currently live in an open-plan apartment with a kitchen, dining room, and adjoining living room, and it bothers me when someone is working in the kitchen and I have to turn the TV volume up.
The dining area in the bay window is 4.32x2.50m (14x8 feet), then the angled wall starts. We’ve already tested in a show house that this space is enough for our 200x100cm (79x39 inches) table, benches, and chairs. The two window panels on one wall would be fixed glazing so you can go out to the left and right. There is a show home park near Poing, Munich, and we copied this idea from the company Bien & Zenker Concept Munich. We liked it.
The recess in the living room is planned purely for aesthetics. We know that it doesn’t add any practical space, just like the passage to the living room near the stairs. The sliding doors that run into the wall are there so we can keep the spaces open or close them for privacy.
It may happen that everything is closed later, but we want to keep this option open so we can avoid regretting not having done it.
Besides the practical aspects a room must have, we also like the visual appeal and spaciousness, which is why the rooms and the bedroom are quite large. We’ve found it annoying that bedrooms were so small at friends’ houses who built in the past couple of years. Bed, 60cm (24 inches) in front, and then a wall or wardrobe.
Right now, we often stay in the bedroom—whether just lying in bed on weekends chatting or talking in the evening.
Garage:
We have already clarified this with the builder. It will have a width of 6.40m (21 feet) for both vehicles. The utility room will be in the basement or at the back near the storage room.
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