bibliophilia6 May 2013 17:34Hello everyone,
I have just reserved a plot of land and now need to submit a detailed plan by early June outlining what kind of house will be built on it, in order to obtain approval from the local authorities.
This doesn’t necessarily have to be architect’s blueprints yet. A detailed brochure for a prefabricated house, for example, would also be sufficient.
However, the floor area, exterior shape, and height dimensions must be included.
What would be the best way to proceed now?
I do not intend to buy a prefab house or a house from a local developer, but want to design the house myself with an architect. This will probably be tight, especially since the architect I want to work with lives abroad (and I won’t be able to take any time off in the remaining three weeks, plus I am getting married soon. Time is tight, so to speak).
Construction is planned to start in about a year, so I thought I might have more time in that regard.
Do you think it would make sense to first look for prefab houses, choose one that I could accept externally, submit that brochure, and then work with the architect to revise the house in due course (of course ensuring that the dimensions I submit to the authorities now are kept)?
Or is there another practical option I’m not thinking of right now?
I also have another general question:
Before I sit down with the architect, what should I already know?
Of course, I know what rooms I want, how many, and I have a rough idea of how the house should look.
But do I need to already decide on things like the type of heating system, whether I want a fireplace, or what kind of flooring it should have, or will all that come later during the process?
I find it really difficult to create a plan outlining what I need to take care of and when.
Do you perhaps have any literature recommendations with checklists that I could follow?
Best regards,
bibliophilia
I have just reserved a plot of land and now need to submit a detailed plan by early June outlining what kind of house will be built on it, in order to obtain approval from the local authorities.
This doesn’t necessarily have to be architect’s blueprints yet. A detailed brochure for a prefabricated house, for example, would also be sufficient.
However, the floor area, exterior shape, and height dimensions must be included.
What would be the best way to proceed now?
I do not intend to buy a prefab house or a house from a local developer, but want to design the house myself with an architect. This will probably be tight, especially since the architect I want to work with lives abroad (and I won’t be able to take any time off in the remaining three weeks, plus I am getting married soon. Time is tight, so to speak).
Construction is planned to start in about a year, so I thought I might have more time in that regard.
Do you think it would make sense to first look for prefab houses, choose one that I could accept externally, submit that brochure, and then work with the architect to revise the house in due course (of course ensuring that the dimensions I submit to the authorities now are kept)?
Or is there another practical option I’m not thinking of right now?
I also have another general question:
Before I sit down with the architect, what should I already know?
Of course, I know what rooms I want, how many, and I have a rough idea of how the house should look.
But do I need to already decide on things like the type of heating system, whether I want a fireplace, or what kind of flooring it should have, or will all that come later during the process?
I find it really difficult to create a plan outlining what I need to take care of and when.
Do you perhaps have any literature recommendations with checklists that I could follow?
Best regards,
bibliophilia
What kind of permit is that? One that checks the design framework before you buy?
In our case, the Klosterkammer (owner of the leasehold land) also wanted to "see" our house before the notarized contract. A drawing showing that everything (building boundaries, facade design, roof, and garage) complies with the design framework requirements was sufficient. Additionally, a web link to a house matching the design was provided.
In our case, the Klosterkammer (owner of the leasehold land) also wanted to "see" our house before the notarized contract. A drawing showing that everything (building boundaries, facade design, roof, and garage) complies with the design framework requirements was sufficient. Additionally, a web link to a house matching the design was provided.
bibliophilia8 May 2013 08:38I spoke again with the city official. Rough plans are sufficient. We only need to define the shape of the roof, specify where the house will be located on the plot, where the garage will go, and the size of the building footprint.
Also, the number of floors.
It just needs to be clear that the building complies with the city’s development plan, which, for example, requires only one full floor and allows only half-hipped roofs or gable roofs.
This is all that is needed for the building permit / planning permission to be granted.
I would be reluctant to look for a new architect, Wastl.
We know that this particular architect designs great houses, has excellent ideas, provides really good contacts with construction companies, and is very affordable.
My husband’s brothers have worked with this architect multiple times and were very satisfied.
I would prefer not to commit blindly just because time is pressing.
There is still about a year before actual construction begins. During that time, I would like to plan in detail with an architect I trust.
Also, the number of floors.
It just needs to be clear that the building complies with the city’s development plan, which, for example, requires only one full floor and allows only half-hipped roofs or gable roofs.
This is all that is needed for the building permit / planning permission to be granted.
I would be reluctant to look for a new architect, Wastl.
We know that this particular architect designs great houses, has excellent ideas, provides really good contacts with construction companies, and is very affordable.
My husband’s brothers have worked with this architect multiple times and were very satisfied.
I would prefer not to commit blindly just because time is pressing.
There is still about a year before actual construction begins. During that time, I would like to plan in detail with an architect I trust.
B
Bauexperte8 May 2013 09:59Hello,
Usually, it is enough for the architect to draw the "building mass" along with all details into the preliminary site plan (if available) or the public cadastral extract. We have done this several times. However...
... this does not replace the formal building application but rather confirms the award of a plot "x" to our clients. In most cases—with this approach from the municipality—we have submitted the building application directly.
Are you sure that this "sketch drawing" replaces the formal building application, or is it more likely that you have to apply for the building permit before starting construction through a simplified approval process?
I can understand that to some extent, as I have been working well and gladly with an architect from Erkelenz for years.
On the other hand, I also know how much time it takes—sometimes less, but increasingly more—to develop the floor plans. There are several building projects where we met with our clients once a week for several weeks. I imagine this would be very difficult with an architect who is only sporadically available—especially since you apparently do not yet know exactly where the planning process is heading. 😕
Why wait a whole year? I am picturing the situation in my mind and have very clear images of how that year might unfold. You would not be the first client to use such a year to make constant changes in one way or another... sometimes that can drive people crazy. 😱
Best regards, Bauexperte
bibliophilia schrieb:
I spoke again with the city official. Rough plans are sufficient there. We only need to determine the shape of the roof, indicate where the house will be located on the plot, where the garage should go, and the size of the building footprint. Also, the number of floors. It just needs to be clear that the city’s development plan is being followed, which, for example, stipulates that only one full floor is allowed and only half-hipped roofs or gable roofs are permitted.
Usually, it is enough for the architect to draw the "building mass" along with all details into the preliminary site plan (if available) or the public cadastral extract. We have done this several times. However...
bibliophilia schrieb:
That is only needed to get the building permit approved.
... this does not replace the formal building application but rather confirms the award of a plot "x" to our clients. In most cases—with this approach from the municipality—we have submitted the building application directly.
Are you sure that this "sketch drawing" replaces the formal building application, or is it more likely that you have to apply for the building permit before starting construction through a simplified approval process?
bibliophilia schrieb:
I would be reluctant to search for a new architect, Wastl.
We know that this particular architect designs great houses, has excellent ideas, provides very good contacts to construction companies, and is very affordable.
My husband’s brothers have worked with this architect several times and were very satisfied.
I can understand that to some extent, as I have been working well and gladly with an architect from Erkelenz for years.
On the other hand, I also know how much time it takes—sometimes less, but increasingly more—to develop the floor plans. There are several building projects where we met with our clients once a week for several weeks. I imagine this would be very difficult with an architect who is only sporadically available—especially since you apparently do not yet know exactly where the planning process is heading. 😕
bibliophilia schrieb:
It would still be about a year until actual construction begins. During that time, I would like to plan in detail with an architect I trust.
Why wait a whole year? I am picturing the situation in my mind and have very clear images of how that year might unfold. You would not be the first client to use such a year to make constant changes in one way or another... sometimes that can drive people crazy. 😱
Best regards, Bauexperte
schubert798 May 2013 16:24My advice: Avoid making such quick decisions. Building a house is usually the biggest investment of your life. The floor plan is crucial! Especially the location, roof shape, building structure, etc., are the key factors. These elements also significantly influence the final price of the house.
The "rest" (fixtures, most (but not all) interior walls, etc.) can always be changed later on.
Deciding everything in less than 3 weeks is complete madness. Alternatively, talk to the person from the city or municipality and explain your situation.
But please don’t finalize these important aspects within just 3 weeks!
The "rest" (fixtures, most (but not all) interior walls, etc.) can always be changed later on.
Deciding everything in less than 3 weeks is complete madness. Alternatively, talk to the person from the city or municipality and explain your situation.
But please don’t finalize these important aspects within just 3 weeks!
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