Hello everyone,
Our heating engineer said he would usually install a circulation pump, but it could also be omitted. Operating costs would be about 30–50 € per year, and he estimated that it would need to be replaced every 6 years.
Of course, we don’t want to wait 30 seconds for the first warm water. He also mentioned that he can reduce the pipe diameter to somewhat lower the wait time.
Does anyone have experience with these pumps – from what pipe length or distance would you recommend installing one?
Another topic was the ventilation of the utility room, bathroom, and kitchen – he said it might be possible to install an air admittance valve (also known as a "mushroom valve" or similar) to avoid venting through the roof. Does anyone know about this? Does it cause any odors? I find that hard to imagine.
Thanks and best regards.
Our heating engineer said he would usually install a circulation pump, but it could also be omitted. Operating costs would be about 30–50 € per year, and he estimated that it would need to be replaced every 6 years.
Of course, we don’t want to wait 30 seconds for the first warm water. He also mentioned that he can reduce the pipe diameter to somewhat lower the wait time.
Does anyone have experience with these pumps – from what pipe length or distance would you recommend installing one?
Another topic was the ventilation of the utility room, bathroom, and kitchen – he said it might be possible to install an air admittance valve (also known as a "mushroom valve" or similar) to avoid venting through the roof. Does anyone know about this? Does it cause any odors? I find that hard to imagine.
Thanks and best regards.
I wasn’t familiar with the self-learning version either, but I’m afraid it probably won’t work well with shift work. I will likely have a circulation system retrofitted in the existing building that works as follows: You briefly open the hot water supply and then close it immediately. The pump detects the demand and starts running. In the meantime, you go to the toilet, and afterwards, you have hot water available right away because the pump continues running on a timer.
Off-topic regarding the living room and house rules:
The comparison doesn’t quite hold up. I’m not trying to lure strangers into my living room to make money with advertising banners, etc. If you do that for a while, causing dissatisfaction among users and possibly some moderators, visits will eventually stop, along with the income. You can’t please everyone, but sometimes discussions offer food for thought. The fact that users keep raising the issue can be seen as positive; others just stop showing up eventually. Whether that’s the better approach is up to each person. I can live with the current rules since the forum isn’t that important to me anyway, but it would still be a shame.
Off-topic regarding the living room and house rules:
The comparison doesn’t quite hold up. I’m not trying to lure strangers into my living room to make money with advertising banners, etc. If you do that for a while, causing dissatisfaction among users and possibly some moderators, visits will eventually stop, along with the income. You can’t please everyone, but sometimes discussions offer food for thought. The fact that users keep raising the issue can be seen as positive; others just stop showing up eventually. Whether that’s the better approach is up to each person. I can live with the current rules since the forum isn’t that important to me anyway, but it would still be a shame.
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Bauexperte26 May 2015 13:23Hello Frank,
Regarding the annoying advertisements, you are of course right, and the site operator knows this too; their web developer has been working on a solution for some time. Hopefully, thanks to the recent update, this annoying issue will be a thing of the past.
Best regards, Bauexperte
FrankH schrieb:Not really, since the discussion with 'Lexmaul' focuses solely on the topic of links and whether—in his opinion—the unclear approval of links aligns with the forum rules or leaves a questionable impression.
OT regarding the living room and house rules:
The comparison is a bit off
Regarding the annoying advertisements, you are of course right, and the site operator knows this too; their web developer has been working on a solution for some time. Hopefully, thanks to the recent update, this annoying issue will be a thing of the past.
Best regards, Bauexperte
Fortunately, there is the option to start a thread in the appropriate forum here at the HBF if something is not working or if you want to discuss something off-topic. Feel free to use this feature, as the admin monitors it! You can point out any inconsistencies directly to them. Unfortunately, I rarely see the complaint section being used; instead, dissatisfaction is often brought up off-topic within a technical discussion.
I don’t know how you handle things at work or in your private life, but addressing issues directly is more helpful than getting upset behind someone’s back.
I don’t know how you handle things at work or in your private life, but addressing issues directly is more helpful than getting upset behind someone’s back.
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daniels873 Oct 2015 11:32Just a quick question... I haven’t read the entire thread.
Why not connect a timer relay to the bathroom light switch that activates a tankless water heater for 2-3 minutes? When you enter the bathroom and turn on the light, the water heater goes into standby mode for the set time.
Why not connect a timer relay to the bathroom light switch that activates a tankless water heater for 2-3 minutes? When you enter the bathroom and turn on the light, the water heater goes into standby mode for the set time.
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Sebastian793 Oct 2015 11:42Well, maybe read everything first, then you’ll understand that it’s not about tankless water heaters...
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