ᐅ Honest Opinion on the Bungalow Floor Plan – Approximately 175 sqm
Created on: 30 Jan 2019 15:46
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AleHer0209
A warm hello to everyone,
we are currently at the beginning of our first building project. Looking ahead, we have decided on a bungalow. The floor plan is just an initial idea and not final; the dimensions can still be changed.
Development Plan / Restrictions – see attachment
Plot size – approx. 1060 sqm (11,409 sq ft)
Slope – none
Floor area ratio – 0.4
Plot ratio – 0.5
Building window, building line, and boundary – planned 5 m (16 ft) from the street
Edge development – yes
Number of floors – single-story
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type – modern plastered, left and right shed roofs, flat in the middle and garage, bungalow
Basement, floors – no basement
Number of occupants, age – two people, no children
Office: family use or home office? – both
Open or closed design – open
Conservative or modern construction – modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – island
Number of dining places – minimum 4
Fireplace – possibly decorative only
Balcony, roof terrace – garden terrace
Garage, carport – garage
Utility garden, greenhouse – no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine – tiled toilet in the garage for the dog, long stays in the garden // terrace during summer
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
- What do you particularly like? Why? – Separate zones between private areas and guest-accessible areas.
- What do you dislike? Why? – The garage needs to be moved forward because a second terrace might be built on the east side.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 300,000
Preferred heating system: heat pump with deep drilling and preferably a ventilation system,
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions?
Open to everything
Why is the design as it is now? For example,
The architect implemented our wishes.
Looking forward to your honest feedback.
we are currently at the beginning of our first building project. Looking ahead, we have decided on a bungalow. The floor plan is just an initial idea and not final; the dimensions can still be changed.
Development Plan / Restrictions – see attachment
Plot size – approx. 1060 sqm (11,409 sq ft)
Slope – none
Floor area ratio – 0.4
Plot ratio – 0.5
Building window, building line, and boundary – planned 5 m (16 ft) from the street
Edge development – yes
Number of floors – single-story
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type – modern plastered, left and right shed roofs, flat in the middle and garage, bungalow
Basement, floors – no basement
Number of occupants, age – two people, no children
Office: family use or home office? – both
Open or closed design – open
Conservative or modern construction – modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – island
Number of dining places – minimum 4
Fireplace – possibly decorative only
Balcony, roof terrace – garden terrace
Garage, carport – garage
Utility garden, greenhouse – no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine – tiled toilet in the garage for the dog, long stays in the garden // terrace during summer
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
- What do you particularly like? Why? – Separate zones between private areas and guest-accessible areas.
- What do you dislike? Why? – The garage needs to be moved forward because a second terrace might be built on the east side.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 300,000
Preferred heating system: heat pump with deep drilling and preferably a ventilation system,
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions?
Open to everything
Why is the design as it is now? For example,
The architect implemented our wishes.
Looking forward to your honest feedback.
AleHer020931 Jan 2019 13:31Mottenhausen schrieb:
For the electrician, it’s really convenient if you live next door. No doubt about that.
But it actually makes things worse when it comes to "helpers": you walk past the house every day for weeks... waiting for person X or Y, and nothing moves forward. You have no way to apply any pressure.
The invoice from the construction liability insurance is funny too: €15,000? Already budgeted?
PS regarding the actual question: I don’t think the house is as bad as some have said here. The potential for things to get worse with a new design seems quite high. I believe a few careful adjustments to the current floor plan are enough. Here I should maybe clarify once more. My comment about help from friends was not meant to imply that the majority of the work would be done by them (preferably only in exchange for favors). Rather, it means that within our group of friends there are professionals who can occasionally provide advice and hands-on support. For example, if I hire an electrician trade and friend X tells me, "Okay, you want to cut the channels yourself with an angle grinder, so you should do it like this and that," etc. I just want to make sure nothing is misunderstood here.
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Mottenhausen31 Jan 2019 13:40Okay, but then the project scope and the dream house no longer match.
The cable channels and the insulation of the floor ceiling are always classic examples... yes, you can save something there. But the gap between expected and actual costs doesn’t fully explain it.
This is important because it would be frustrating to plan a floor plan well over budget and then have to redesign it. Most people find it much harder to cut back and downsize afterwards than to upgrade the features and go all out later on.
The cable channels and the insulation of the floor ceiling are always classic examples... yes, you can save something there. But the gap between expected and actual costs doesn’t fully explain it.
This is important because it would be frustrating to plan a floor plan well over budget and then have to redesign it. Most people find it much harder to cut back and downsize afterwards than to upgrade the features and go all out later on.
Mottenhausen schrieb:
The potential for making things worse when redesigning seems quite high to me. I think a few careful changes to the current floor plan are sufficient. I (gladly) agree, however
Mottenhausen schrieb:
that it would be frustrating to design a floor plan significantly over budget now and then have to redesign later. Most people find it much harder to cut costs and reduce size afterward than to upgrade the fittings and go all out later on. I also share that view.
I don’t see any major mistakes in the floor plan—at least none that couldn’t be fixed by a simple east-west mirror flip—although, as often happens, I notice that the dimensions, here oddly only slightly, deviate from the standard module. What seems to be missing on a larger scale is a basement substitute room.
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The cost question is important because you can save a lot of effort if a new design is needed anyway, which might then be affordable. It’s not the first time that many good tips and improvements were provided, even some drawn here (taking several hours), only to find out later that the square meters don’t fit the budget.
Does the technical room not need to be heated, meaning inside the thermal envelope? Hmm...
What does the architect say about the ridge orientation?
AleHer0209 schrieb:
The garage is unheated, yes, but the double-wall construction should cover the entire building including the garage. This hasn’t been implemented in the drawing yet.
Does the technical room not need to be heated, meaning inside the thermal envelope? Hmm...
What does the architect say about the ridge orientation?
AleHer020931 Jan 2019 17:0011ant schrieb:
I agree (willingly), however
I also concur here.
I don’t see any major errors in the floor plan – at least none that wouldn’t be resolved by a west-east mirror flip – although, as often happens, I notice that the dimensions, here strangely mostly slight, deviate from standard measurements. What seems largely missing to me is a basement replacement room.A basement replacement room is a tricky issue… the question or challenge still remains…
1) The idea is to add a ceiling above a children’s room for storage space
2) Possibly create space via a shelving system in the utility room
3) Extend the garage by one meter (3 feet) to gain more workshop space
4) Alternatively, build a garden shed
However, we tend to be quite minimalist; anything without practical use is disposed of or given away.
AleHer020931 Jan 2019 17:15ypg schrieb:
The cost question is important because you can save a lot of effort if a new design is needed anyway, which might then be affordable. It’s not the first time that many good tips and improvements were given, some even sketched here (several hours of work), only to find out later that the square meters do not fit the budget.
Does the technical room really need to be heated, meaning inside the thermal envelope? Hmm...
What does the architect say about the ridge orientation?I still don’t understand the point about a new design… why would a new design be necessary? I’ve gone through all the posts again and haven’t found any mention of a budget limit… only that we plan for the house including the garage (and only these two buildings) with about 300,000 to 350,000 (currency) in mind. The architect mentioned roughly 300,000 without the garage… that’s how I initially understood it.
Swapping the bathroom fixtures is a good idea, though I’m not sure if it would look “right” to walk into a bathroom and immediately see a shower.
Whether the technical room needs to be heated, I can’t (yet) say… in our current house, the oil heating system is located separately in another building that is not heated. But in that space, I currently feel comfortable even in a T-shirt.
Regarding the orientation, I will discuss it with my architect either tonight or tomorrow evening. The fact is, several houses in the area do not comply with the given direction requirements. So right now, I can’t give any definitive information on that.
Thanks anyway to all of you.
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