ᐅ Heated and spacious sports room next to the garage? – Looking for ideas
Created on: 21 Nov 2019 15:45
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ludwig88sta
Hello everyone,
we have found a plot of land near Regensburg. It is just over 1,000 sqm (10,764 sq ft) and is almost square in shape. Therefore, we are not restricted in the building’s floor plan. We want to build using solid construction (either expanded clay or insulated bricks) with walls of 36 cm (14 inches) or preferably 50 cm (20 inches) thickness.
Originally, I wanted to place two prefabricated garages away from the house, closer to the street. However, since we also want a room of about 3 x 6 m (10 x 20 ft) for sports (with barbells, pull-up rig, air bike, etc.) next to the garage, we have moved away from the more economical prefabricated garages. Instead, we are now considering situating the garages east of the house, connected by a door.
There are some special requirements for the sports room:
- it must be at least 3.00 m (10 ft) high (ideally 3.20 m (10.5 ft))
- about 3 x 6 m (10 x 20 ft) floor area
- not very cold in winter, unlike a typical garage in winter
Does it make sense to build the sports room directly east of the house, with the double garage further east of that? Is a double garage height of 3.00 m (10 ft) too high? Even with a pitched roof, as we envision for the house. Also, if the garage is directly adjacent to the house, is it usually heated, insulated, or neither? Because the sports room really shouldn’t be around 5°C (41°F) in winter.
We don’t have a floor plan for the house yet. For now, we’re focused—although it might sound odd—on planning the sports room first. Oh, and because of the 3 m (10 ft) height and since we like to spend time outside in the sun in good weather in front of the garage/sports room, a basement location for the sports room is out of the question.
Basically, the room should look somewhat like this. However, not like a typical garage, but as a single room (although with a roller door or a wide door and windows for good ventilation). A single room would also be better for heating purposes, right?
Maybe you could give us some ideas on how and where to best accommodate a high-ceilinged, heated sports room in a new build. Next to the garage? Or would two prefabricated garages plus the sports room attached to the east side of the house be better?
Thank you very much for your time and any possible tips.
Marius
we have found a plot of land near Regensburg. It is just over 1,000 sqm (10,764 sq ft) and is almost square in shape. Therefore, we are not restricted in the building’s floor plan. We want to build using solid construction (either expanded clay or insulated bricks) with walls of 36 cm (14 inches) or preferably 50 cm (20 inches) thickness.
Originally, I wanted to place two prefabricated garages away from the house, closer to the street. However, since we also want a room of about 3 x 6 m (10 x 20 ft) for sports (with barbells, pull-up rig, air bike, etc.) next to the garage, we have moved away from the more economical prefabricated garages. Instead, we are now considering situating the garages east of the house, connected by a door.
There are some special requirements for the sports room:
- it must be at least 3.00 m (10 ft) high (ideally 3.20 m (10.5 ft))
- about 3 x 6 m (10 x 20 ft) floor area
- not very cold in winter, unlike a typical garage in winter
Does it make sense to build the sports room directly east of the house, with the double garage further east of that? Is a double garage height of 3.00 m (10 ft) too high? Even with a pitched roof, as we envision for the house. Also, if the garage is directly adjacent to the house, is it usually heated, insulated, or neither? Because the sports room really shouldn’t be around 5°C (41°F) in winter.
We don’t have a floor plan for the house yet. For now, we’re focused—although it might sound odd—on planning the sports room first. Oh, and because of the 3 m (10 ft) height and since we like to spend time outside in the sun in good weather in front of the garage/sports room, a basement location for the sports room is out of the question.
Basically, the room should look somewhat like this. However, not like a typical garage, but as a single room (although with a roller door or a wide door and windows for good ventilation). A single room would also be better for heating purposes, right?
Maybe you could give us some ideas on how and where to best accommodate a high-ceilinged, heated sports room in a new build. Next to the garage? Or would two prefabricated garages plus the sports room attached to the east side of the house be better?
Thank you very much for your time and any possible tips.
Marius
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Grantlhaua25 Nov 2019 07:17Why not consider a partial basement, for example under the garage? I don’t think it would be much more expensive than the previous ideas.
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ludwig88sta25 Nov 2019 10:13Grantlhaua schrieb:
Why not a partial basement, for example under the garage? I don’t think that would be much more expensive than the previous ideas. "Oh yes, because of the height of 3 m (10 feet) and since we like to spend time in the sun outside the garage / exercise room when the weather is nice, having the exercise room in the basement is not an option." (original post)
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Grantlhaua25 Nov 2019 12:17Ah, I overlooked that, thanks!
Not directly related to the sports room, but in my opinion still more appropriate to reply here in your thread than in a thread about company experiences, where you asked:
For example, we have: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Gewerke-efh.24838/page-2#post-211879 ## https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissentwurf-Stadtvilla-mit-Keller-Verbesserungsvorschlag.32523/page-9#post-350294 ## https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissplanung-kurz-vor-bauantragsstellung.25647/page-232#post-293781
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
ludwig88sta schrieb:
Is there a thread that deals well with the topic of individual contracting / what you need to consider?
For example, we have: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Gewerke-efh.24838/page-2#post-211879 ## https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissentwurf-Stadtvilla-mit-Keller-Verbesserungsvorschlag.32523/page-9#post-350294 ## https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissplanung-kurz-vor-bauantragsstellung.25647/page-232#post-293781
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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ludwig88sta2 Dec 2019 18:06Thank you for the three threads.
I have read some useful information.
The consensus now seems to be that it is best to handle the subcontractor assignments with an architect. Thanks.
I have read some useful information.
The consensus now seems to be that it is best to handle the subcontractor assignments with an architect. Thanks.
ludwig88sta schrieb:
The consensus now seems to be that it’s best to assign the trades through an architect.Is it really? – I don’t read that consensus here. Basically, people tend to underestimate that only fools reduce budgets based on totals, and that a well-coordinated team is a running system that should never be changed. An architect knows their reliable people; losses in efficiency caused by swapping in a “cheaper” worker usually outweigh the price difference between bids. Individual contract awards are only beneficial as long as they are not used for cherry-picking, which can backfire. Another principle is: the more individual contracts you have, the more detailed the construction plan must be—otherwise, small mistakes get punished by having to build boxing for drywall installations. It’s also advisable that the person who designs the project is the same who supervises construction. Self-managing contracts is only recommended with experience, and awarding individual contracts only with tradespeople who already know how to work together as a team. Both tools should not be used without proper expertise. Tendering processes become more slippery the less experienced the client is—they can also be a source of significant cost increases.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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