ᐅ Heated and spacious sports room next to the garage? – Looking for ideas
Created on: 21 Nov 2019 15:45
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ludwig88sta
Hello everyone,
we have found a plot of land near Regensburg. It is just over 1,000 sqm (10,764 sq ft) and is almost square in shape. Therefore, we are not restricted in the building’s floor plan. We want to build using solid construction (either expanded clay or insulated bricks) with walls of 36 cm (14 inches) or preferably 50 cm (20 inches) thickness.
Originally, I wanted to place two prefabricated garages away from the house, closer to the street. However, since we also want a room of about 3 x 6 m (10 x 20 ft) for sports (with barbells, pull-up rig, air bike, etc.) next to the garage, we have moved away from the more economical prefabricated garages. Instead, we are now considering situating the garages east of the house, connected by a door.
There are some special requirements for the sports room:
- it must be at least 3.00 m (10 ft) high (ideally 3.20 m (10.5 ft))
- about 3 x 6 m (10 x 20 ft) floor area
- not very cold in winter, unlike a typical garage in winter
Does it make sense to build the sports room directly east of the house, with the double garage further east of that? Is a double garage height of 3.00 m (10 ft) too high? Even with a pitched roof, as we envision for the house. Also, if the garage is directly adjacent to the house, is it usually heated, insulated, or neither? Because the sports room really shouldn’t be around 5°C (41°F) in winter.
We don’t have a floor plan for the house yet. For now, we’re focused—although it might sound odd—on planning the sports room first. Oh, and because of the 3 m (10 ft) height and since we like to spend time outside in the sun in good weather in front of the garage/sports room, a basement location for the sports room is out of the question.
Basically, the room should look somewhat like this. However, not like a typical garage, but as a single room (although with a roller door or a wide door and windows for good ventilation). A single room would also be better for heating purposes, right?
Maybe you could give us some ideas on how and where to best accommodate a high-ceilinged, heated sports room in a new build. Next to the garage? Or would two prefabricated garages plus the sports room attached to the east side of the house be better?
Thank you very much for your time and any possible tips.
Marius
we have found a plot of land near Regensburg. It is just over 1,000 sqm (10,764 sq ft) and is almost square in shape. Therefore, we are not restricted in the building’s floor plan. We want to build using solid construction (either expanded clay or insulated bricks) with walls of 36 cm (14 inches) or preferably 50 cm (20 inches) thickness.
Originally, I wanted to place two prefabricated garages away from the house, closer to the street. However, since we also want a room of about 3 x 6 m (10 x 20 ft) for sports (with barbells, pull-up rig, air bike, etc.) next to the garage, we have moved away from the more economical prefabricated garages. Instead, we are now considering situating the garages east of the house, connected by a door.
There are some special requirements for the sports room:
- it must be at least 3.00 m (10 ft) high (ideally 3.20 m (10.5 ft))
- about 3 x 6 m (10 x 20 ft) floor area
- not very cold in winter, unlike a typical garage in winter
Does it make sense to build the sports room directly east of the house, with the double garage further east of that? Is a double garage height of 3.00 m (10 ft) too high? Even with a pitched roof, as we envision for the house. Also, if the garage is directly adjacent to the house, is it usually heated, insulated, or neither? Because the sports room really shouldn’t be around 5°C (41°F) in winter.
We don’t have a floor plan for the house yet. For now, we’re focused—although it might sound odd—on planning the sports room first. Oh, and because of the 3 m (10 ft) height and since we like to spend time outside in the sun in good weather in front of the garage/sports room, a basement location for the sports room is out of the question.
Basically, the room should look somewhat like this. However, not like a typical garage, but as a single room (although with a roller door or a wide door and windows for good ventilation). A single room would also be better for heating purposes, right?
Maybe you could give us some ideas on how and where to best accommodate a high-ceilinged, heated sports room in a new build. Next to the garage? Or would two prefabricated garages plus the sports room attached to the east side of the house be better?
Thank you very much for your time and any possible tips.
Marius
RomeoZwo schrieb:
If you want to build a gable roof, for example, it would certainly be possible to leave out part of the ground floor ceiling above this room and thus achieve the desired ceiling height there.I would have this utility room designed by an architect, following the idea by @RomeoZwo, if a gable roof is allowed.
The room does not need to be 3.20 meters (10.5 feet) high everywhere, right?
And if it does, then it will be a flat roof extension to the house.
Since it is supposed to be heated, it should be within the building’s thermal envelope, not in the non-existent thermal envelope of the garage.
And if an extension is built, it can be any height desired.
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ludwig88sta21 Nov 2019 17:17Yes, since we are planning a basement where we could possibly have a guest room, there is more space in the living area for those kinds of things. This is very important to us, so we will probably have to invest some money. My question was whether this can be integrated into a garage or if there are prefabricated garages with a ceiling height of 2.80 meters (9 feet 2 inches). But how would I heat them? That’s why I’m asking here.
Thanks in advance for all the answers.
Thanks in advance for all the answers.
L
ludwig88sta21 Nov 2019 17:19ypg schrieb:
And if so, it will be a flat-roof extension attached to the house.
It is supposed to be heated, so it should be within the thermal envelope of the house and not in the nonexistent thermal envelope of the garage.
And if an extension is built, it can be any height desired. That seems to be the current favorite option; maybe it can be combined with the entrance area or vestibule.
If my construction company doesn’t have architects, how do you actually find good architects? Do they charge for consultations upfront or only once hired?
For pull-ups and a power rack, 2.5 m (8 ft) is sufficient.
Are you planning a basement? In that case, I would personally prefer to set up my own CrossFit studio there and choose a higher ceiling height.
Otherwise, for the price difference between a 20 m² (215 ft²) prefabricated garage and the same area integrated into the house, you could heat the garage for a long time. For occasional use, even an electric hot air blower could be cost-effective. There's no reason why you can't insulate the garage wall yourself and then plaster it. Just make sure no neighbor finds out that it’s heated and used for purposes other than parking your car.
Are you planning a basement? In that case, I would personally prefer to set up my own CrossFit studio there and choose a higher ceiling height.
Otherwise, for the price difference between a 20 m² (215 ft²) prefabricated garage and the same area integrated into the house, you could heat the garage for a long time. For occasional use, even an electric hot air blower could be cost-effective. There's no reason why you can't insulate the garage wall yourself and then plaster it. Just make sure no neighbor finds out that it’s heated and used for purposes other than parking your car.
ludwig88sta schrieb:
Maybe you can combine that with the entrance area / vestibule. Why is that?
ludwig88sta schrieb:
If my construction company doesn’t have architects, ... then you need someone to create the design and prepare the building permit / planning permission application.
ludwig88sta schrieb:
How do you actually find good architects? Yellow pages? They’re available online as well. Or you could drive around residential areas and ask who built particular houses.
ludwig88sta schrieb:
Do they charge for the consultation right away or only after you hire them? Usually you can get about an hour to get acquainted. However, you should ask about this in advance.
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ludwig88sta21 Nov 2019 17:38Scout schrieb:
For pull-ups and a power rack, 2.5 m (8 feet) ceiling height is sufficient.
Are you building a basement? I would personally prefer to set up my own CrossFit studio down there and choose a higher ceiling height for that.
Otherwise, for the price difference between a 20 m² (215 ft²) prefab garage and the same area integrated into the house, you could heat the garage for a long time. For occasional use, even an electric hot air blower could be economical. There’s nothing stopping you from insulating the garage wall yourself as a DIY project and then plastering it. You just have to make sure the neighbor doesn’t find out it’s heated and used for purposes other than parking your car.Yes, we want to build a basement. But as I said, we have long dreamed of a “private box” where, on nice days, you can open the garage door in the morning and sit outside on your AirBike or similar. That’s why we don’t really want a basement gym.
Is it prohibited here in Germany—while in the USA it’s common—for people to set up a small home gym in their garage and work out there for 1–2 hours a day?
Yes, retrofitting such a garage with insulation and plastering it, then briefly heating it to 15–18°C (59–64°F) with a heater or other portable heating device, should cost significantly less than about 50,000.
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