Hello,
We have been looking for a plot of land in the greater Nuremberg area for quite some time. During our search, we came across the land services or land brokerage offered by various (prefabricated) home builders.
I have read in several threads that these services, which are tied to house contracts, can be very problematic. My question is whether anyone has had success with these services—in other words, has anyone really found a good plot at a reasonable price that they couldn’t have found themselves online?
We have been looking for a plot of land in the greater Nuremberg area for quite some time. During our search, we came across the land services or land brokerage offered by various (prefabricated) home builders.
I have read in several threads that these services, which are tied to house contracts, can be very problematic. My question is whether anyone has had success with these services—in other words, has anyone really found a good plot at a reasonable price that they couldn’t have found themselves online?
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HilfeHilfe22 Dec 2023 04:48Buchsbaum schrieb:
I commuted for many years from Nuremberg to Schweinfurt and lived in the Südstadt area myself. We also spent several years looking for a plot or house in the metropolitan region. There were very few options, and when there were any, they were very expensive.
The region is completely overpopulated. The infrastructure can’t handle the massive number of people. The S-Bahn from Bamberg is absolutely overcrowded during rush hours. The Frankenschnellweg is not a highway but rather a traffic jam road. Whether you head into Nuremberg early in the morning or leave in the evening, you’re almost always stuck in traffic.
The mornings were still manageable, but I had to leave at 5:30 a.m. The afternoon, however, meant one hour for 5cm (3 miles). Crawling through the city at walking speed.
Traffic jam on the Südtangente, traffic jam at the city limits, traffic jam at the BMW traffic light.
Today, I am very glad I moved to Saxony-Anhalt. There is clearly more quality of life in every aspect.
For many acquaintances, the dream of owning a house did not come true. Not in the metropolitan region.
The best part is, with the ICE Sprinter high-speed train, I can get from Halle an der Saale to Nuremberg Central Station in 1 hour and 36 minutes.
My dream of owning a house came true, just not in Nuremberg.
There are still some affordable building plots somewhere. Towards Schlüsselfeld, Geiselwind, or down towards Eckental, Schnaittach.
Herzogenaurach and Frauenaurach are completely overpriced. An acquaintance just sold a 30-year-old semi-detached house with a tiny plot last summer for 700,000 euros. Absolutely crazy.
In Nuremberg, a regular person; in Saxony-Anhalt, a senior government official 🙂
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Buchsbaum22 Dec 2023 06:57What actually stops a homebuilder from searching for a plot of land themselves? Can't they go to the local authority, visit neighbors, and place ads seeking land?
What a real estate agent can do, you can do yourself as well. Although these house sellers aren't really professional agents.
What a real estate agent can do, you can do yourself as well. Although these house sellers aren't really professional agents.
Buchsbaum schrieb:
What actually stops a home builder from looking for a plot themselves? Can't they just go to the local municipality, check with neighbors, or advertise requests?
What a real estate agent can do, you can do yourself as well. Although these home sellers aren’t really professional agents.Nothing. But the home sellers imply that they have different connections, which is why it would be worthwhile to make a deal with them.
In our experience, an independent sales representative from a local homebuilder actually had very good connections. Although we never intended to build but wanted to buy an existing house, we happened to strike up a conversation with the sales rep at a homebuilding exhibition. He personally knew the developer and seller of a future building site with more than 50 plots. The development itself was not yet on the market, but he had already reserved the best plots for his sales team.
That’s how we ended up with a plot, even though we weren’t actively looking. In that development, almost 50% of the plots were built on by the same general contractor.
At the next development in the same town, the sales rep switched to a franchisee. There, the majority of the plots were built by that company. I suspect a similar situation occurred.
However, these are probably isolated cases, and we would never have signed a homebuilding contract without first having the security of being able to actually buy the land.
That’s how we ended up with a plot, even though we weren’t actively looking. In that development, almost 50% of the plots were built on by the same general contractor.
At the next development in the same town, the sales rep switched to a franchisee. There, the majority of the plots were built by that company. I suspect a similar situation occurred.
However, these are probably isolated cases, and we would never have signed a homebuilding contract without first having the security of being able to actually buy the land.
11ant schrieb:
Of course, in most cases, it is a fraud.Still no. Because the prospective builder is allowed to read the contract they are signing.
Musketier schrieb:
In our case, an independent sales agent of a local homebuilder actually had very good connections. [...] He personally knew the developer and seller of a future building site with more than 50 plots. But that’s a completely different situation. These are then “developer-controlled” plots, which the supplier actually has access to. And this is openly discussed – there is no secrecy about the location that is only revealed after signing the construction contract.
Musketier schrieb:
The building site itself was not yet on the market, but he had already reserved the best plots for his sales team. Since fixed-price guarantees never last that long, such plots also don’t benefit from being used as bait in those kinds of schemes. These are offered to a completely different customer group.
ypg schrieb:
Still no. Because the prospective buyer is allowed to read through the contract they are signing. By that logic, the fraudsters I encountered in prison social work owed all their window bars to a judicial error ;-)
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